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Daemon
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Today's topic: slave

amanuensis - Literally "slave at hand"—for a literary assistant, especially one who takes dictation or copies manuscripts. More...

ciao - Also ciau; from Italian, it is an alteration of schiavo, "(I am your) slave." More...

serve - From Latin servire, "serve," from servus, "slave." More...

addict - To addict originally meant "to award as a slave"; an addict now is a slave to his/her habit, from Latin addictus, which, in Roman law, meant "a debtor awarded as a slave to his creditor." More...

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thar
Posted: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 12:53:07 AM

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Slav - doublet of slave (no offence, coag!)

To be in the thrall of someone (negative) or enthralled by something (positive) is a mental thing.
But it used to mean a servant or slave in Old English.

And original Star Trek. Whistle

English
Thrall

Quote:
From Middle English thral, thralle, threl, threlle, from Old English þrǣl (“thrall, slave, servant”), from Old Norse þræll (“slave”).

Icelandic
Quote:
þræl/l m ( -s, -ar)

1. (ófrjáls maður) slave
2. (óþokki) bastard, scoundrel



Whereas a serf, in the later more codified feudal system, is from the Latin.
Quote:
From Middle English serf, from Old French serf, from Latin servus (“slave, serf, servant”), perhaps of Etruscan origin
Ashwin Vemuri
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coag
Posted: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 1:24:53 PM

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Hello thar,

I don't remember ever checking the etymology of Slavs and your comment puzzled me. I did some Internet search in the meantime.

The Webster associates the origin of "slave" with "Slavs".

Slave, noun
Middle English sclave, from Anglo-French or Medieval Latin; Anglo-French esclave, from Medieval Latin sclavus, from Sclavus Slav; from the frequent enslavement of Slavs in central Europe during the early Middle Ages

But Wikipedia says that "slave" might be a misunderstandig of the Slavic word slovo "word."

'The Slavic autonym *Slověninъ is usually considered a derivation from slovo "word", originally denoting "people who speak (the same language)", i. e. people who understand each other, in contrast to the Slavic word denoting "foreign people", namely němci, meaning "mumbling, murmuring people" (from Slavic *němъ "mumbling, mute"). The latter word may be the derivation of words to denote "Germans" or "Germanic peoples" in many later Slavic languages: e. g., Czech Němec, Slovak Nemec, Slovene Nemec, Belarusian, Russian and Bulgarian Немец, Serbian Немац, Croatian Nijemac, Polish Niemiec, Ukrainian Німець, etc.,[12] but another theory states that rather these words are derived from the name of the Nemetes tribe,[13][14] which is derived from the Celtic root nemeto-.[15][16]

The word slovo ("word") and the related slava ("glory, fame, praise") and slukh ("hearing") originate from the Proto-Indo-European root *ḱlew- ("be spoken of, glory"), cognate with Ancient Greek κλέος (kléos "fame"), whence comes the name Pericles, Latin clueo ("be called"), and English loud.[citation needed]

The English term slave derives from the ethnonym Slav. In medieval wars many Slavs were captured and enslaved, which led to the word slav becoming synonym to "enslaved person".[21][22][23] In addition, the English word Slav derives from the Middle English word sclave, which was borrowed from Medieval Latin sclavus or slavus,[24][better source needed] itself a borrowing and Byzantine Greek σκλάβος sklábos "slave," which was in turn apparently derived from a misunderstanding of the Slavic autonym (denoting a speaker of their own languages).'

The Online Etymology Dictionary (OED) mentions only the Slavic word slovo as the origin of the word Slavs.

Slav (n.)
late 14c., Sclave, from Medieval Latin Sclavus (c. 800), from Byzantine Greek Sklabos (c. 580), from Old Church Slavonic Sloveninu "a Slav," probably related to slovo "word, speech," which suggests the name originally identified a member of a speech community (compare Old Church Slavonic Nemici "Germans," related to nemu "dumb;" Greek heterophonos "foreign," literally "of different voice;" and Old English þeode, which meant both "race" and "language").

OED's explanation seems plausible to me.
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