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Luker4
Posted: Thursday, December 07, 2017 12:27:50 PM

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when I want to turn "What poisoned him?" into passive voice I get "What was he poisoned with?"

is there another possibility ?
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Posted: Thursday, December 07, 2017 1:42:13 PM
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How was he poisoned?

How could he have been poisoned?

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Luker4 wrote:
when I want to turn "What poisoned him?" into passive voice I get "What was he poisoned with?"

is there another possibility ?


"What was he poisoned by/from?"
Luker4
Posted: Thursday, December 07, 2017 1:59:45 PM

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Yes! to first, it seems too obvious now Brick wall


As for the second we can't change the tenses in the task, but in real life sure Applause


Because "What was he poisoned with" implies murder and I want a sentence that doesn't imply any murder.


Thanks.

Luker4
Posted: Thursday, December 07, 2017 2:13:59 PM

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what was he poisoned by ? Applause


I don't how know to use "from" in this context. He was poisoned from the food he had eaten? Does it make sense ?
Parpar1836
Posted: Thursday, December 07, 2017 5:54:51 PM
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How did he get poisoned?

What did he get poisoned from?
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Posted: Thursday, December 07, 2017 5:59:18 PM

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"What was it that poisoned him?"

Luker4
Posted: Friday, December 08, 2017 3:41:55 AM

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While most Americans become severely deficient in Vitamin D during winter months, children can actually be poisoned from an overdose of the same vitamin. So don't give your kids a regular dose of Vitamin D during the summer, and watch out for artificial colors and other yucky additives in their multivitamin!

got it!

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thar
Posted: Friday, December 08, 2017 5:00:55 AM

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Colloquially, that works. But I think in terms of correct grammar, 'poisoned from' is a bit dodgy. Or a lot dodgy.

You can see the logic to it, but it is combining two different forms.

the cause/result
He died from a gunshot wound

and the agent
He was killed by a bullet

I think poisoned, when in the passive, has an agent - and you are poisoned by something. If you want cause/result you have to state it another way
...are poisoned as a result of accidental overdose


You said earlier that you couldn't change it without implying he was murdered. That is why the passive is so useful - all sorts of nuances come up, which influence the choice of active or passive. The most important is that if you don't know the agent, or the agent is not important, the passive is a way of just ignoring it. Whistle


But agency often implies intent, and that limits what the agent can be and you have to be careful what you imply.
He died as a result of hemlock poisoning.
The hemlock didn't poison him. The hemlock killed him, but he poisoned himself.

It depends on the verb. Some are factual, and there is no need to consider intent.
The tree was knocked down by the wind. The person was run over by the bus. His crops were poisoned by the illegal waste.
But sometimes they also imply intent, and I think often 'poisoned' fits into that category when it comes to humans dying as a result of ingesting something.


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