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Topic: By indignities men come to dignities.
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 5:30:07 PM
The same essay contains this aphorism to further illustrate Bacon's meaning: "All rising to Great Place is by a Winding Staire"
I have just remembered that Daphne du Maurier titled her popular biography "The Winding Stair, Francis Bacon",
and surely, that is what Dame Daphne had used to paraphrase His Rise and Fall.
Topic: By indignities men come to dignities.
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 3:25:40 PM
Daemon wrote:
By indignities men come to dignities.

Francis Bacon (1561-1626)


Quotation comes from Bacon's Essays, # XI "Of Great Place". He wasted no time to get to the essence:

"MEN in great place are thrice servants: servants of the sovereign or state; servants of fame; and servants of business. So as they have no freedom; neither in their persons, nor in their actions, nor in their times. It is a strange desire, to seek power and to lose liberty: or to seek power over others and to lose power over a man’s self. The rising unto place is laborious; and by pains men come to greater pains; and it is sometimes base; and by indignities men come to dignities. The standing is slippery, and the regress is either a downfall, or at least an eclipse, which is a melancholy thing."

In Italics is the immediate context in the larger excerpt of the very first paragraph of the essay.
We can clearly see that Bacon laments the strange desire, to seek power and to lose liberty, of those who
pursue the "great places". Coming to dignities, by way of suffering indignities.

Bacon did not mean anything of the sort found, if we were so inclined, in juxtaposing "discreditable or corrupt"
with "creditable or honest service". That he left up to our contemporaries who seek power.
Topic: knock (one's) head against a/the wall
Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 11:27:56 AM
When knocking heads against a wall
This is what happens to the knockers.
Does anybody give a damn at all
For all the poor walls gone bonkers.
Topic: Nothing is so hard for those who abound in riches as to conceive how others can be in want.
Posted: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 9:27:23 PM
Daemon wrote:
Nothing is so hard for those who abound in riches as to conceive how others can be in want.

Jonathan Swift (1667-1745)


Even harder for those who abound in riches is to conceive how they should count their blessings.
Topic: How does one kill fear, I wonder? How do you shoot a specter through the heart, slash off its spectral head, take it by its...
Posted: Sunday, August 13, 2017 5:05:20 PM
Daemon wrote:
How does one kill fear, I wonder? How do you shoot a specter through the heart, slash off its spectral head, take it by its spectral throat?

Joseph Conrad (1857-1924)


Most rhetorical questions are suspect of leading, more often than not suggesting a negative answer.
This quotation was put to us in October, 2012. Here was my answer:

One doesn't, and probably shouldn't try to kill fear. One can only argue with it,
master it with the rational part of the same mind that conceived the specter.
Then remember it as it stood there exposed, for the next time one must argue with it.


Today, I would add: Our worst fears are born, next borne, and fall, within the bounds of reason.

Topic: One quality may be the contrary of another; thus justice is the contrary of injustice, whiteness of blackness, and so on.
Posted: Saturday, August 12, 2017 1:25:23 PM
Daemon wrote:
One quality may be the contrary of another; thus justice is the contrary of injustice, whiteness of blackness, and so on.

Aristotle (384 BC-322 BC)


Yes, but if one considers the alternative facts...
Topic: Words describing BB's unhappy lips
Posted: Friday, August 11, 2017 5:54:18 PM
The question should have been: How many people, after having seen the correctly spelled name inhere,
could still produce a variant of their choice? For Bridjitt Bardó, anyway.

Her expressive mouth is petulantly challenging our TFD members to dare guess the
yet-to-be-discovered enhancement procedure which could closest replicate the effect
of her 1950's appearance.
Topic: All nature wears one universal grin.
Posted: Thursday, August 10, 2017 7:20:26 PM
Daemon wrote:
All nature wears one universal grin.

Henry Fielding (1707-1754)


Nature's 1 universal, rare grin,
Watch its light as it turns dim.
Topic: a knee-slapper
Posted: Thursday, August 10, 2017 3:00:28 PM
A knee-slapper only works when not a head-scratcher.
Topic: keep out of sight
Posted: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 11:44:35 PM
Out of sight, out of mind.

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