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I would mention, besides what has already been said, that "conceptualised" seems to be a bit of a "trend-word", one of those used to 'sound better' in some way.
The normal word is 'conceived' - in fact, in the definition of 'conceptualised' in the TFD, the example sentences use 'conceive'.
Quote:Verb 1. conceptualise - have the idea for; "He conceived of a robot that would help paralyzed patients"; "This library was well conceived"
Though lovers be lost, love shall not, and Death shall have no dominion. - Dylan Thomas
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'old on! 
I just realised what we are missing in this thread.
Where is our other German friend (the crout) IMcRout? I haven't heard anything from him in ages - he is an aficianado of word play and strange usages - thusly, he would be interested in this. 
Though lovers be lost, love shall not, and Death shall have no dominion. - Dylan Thomas
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Eeny-meeny-miney-mo
Also see this thread
Though lovers be lost, love shall not, and Death shall have no dominion. - Dylan Thomas
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Epiphileon wrote:
Quote: I remember a term I heard that seemed to point up some difference in that what is referred to in the west as "religion", is often called in the east "mysticism."
My knowledge is much too limited to get into any deep discussion on comparitive religion, but on this point of nomenclature, I think I can give an answer.
The words connected with these subjects tend to blend or 'grey' so definitive definitions are rare!
"Mysticism" has an implication of Gnosticism or Metagnosticism:
Quote:a system of contemplative prayer and spirituality aimed at achieving direct intuitive experience of the divine.
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Immediate consciousness of the transcendent or ultimate reality or God .
TFD
"Men of the Book", as Mohammed names those who follow the Old Testament and its additions (New Testament, Koran, later Rabbinic writings) tend to have the belief that it is impossible to have 'immediate consciousness' or 'direct experience' of the Divine. So all you can do is believe.
Many Eastern religions stress 'direct experience' or 'consciousness' (especially the Buddhist-related ones, which hardly mention God as an entity) rather than considering belief in someone else's writings.
Thus - to Western minds, Eastern religions can be considered to tend away from belief toward mysticism, whereas the Western religions tend away from it toward 'faith'.
Though lovers be lost, love shall not, and Death shall have no dominion. - Dylan Thomas
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Quite!
"Shrinkage" that's a good word!  "Our stock of cameras shrank from 54 to 43 last month". Must be the weather or something - got to keep them dryer.
Though lovers be lost, love shall not, and Death shall have no dominion. - Dylan Thomas
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Thanks leon - so it really does exist and isn't a figment of our stockroom clerk's imagination!
I think this is probably where Feanor's colleague got his idea from.
Though lovers be lost, love shall not, and Death shall have no dominion. - Dylan Thomas
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Yes - knowing China Miéville’s work, which does tend to the Fantasy end of Science Fiction, they do have, to paraphrase rogermue: "an atmosphere of their own.
The review quoted by Jurm is pretentious, with the writer using "hifalutin'" words to cover what appears to be a lack of understanding of the novel - even of the title "The City and The City".
Though lovers be lost, love shall not, and Death shall have no dominion. - Dylan Thomas
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I can quite understand the difficulty you have with everyday spoken English - you are not alone! 
You seem to be doing well so far.
Possibly Romany or Hope1 can correct this list, but I feel that if you start with novels from the end of the 19th century and first half of the 20th century, the grammar is usually good and follows the traditional grammar rules (though there may be vocabulary and usage differences) - for example HG Wells, Jules Verne, up to George Orwell, even as late as Ray Bradbury.
Next would be more modern novels by well-known authors - who use more colloquial phrasing and grammar, but are generally somewhat conservative in their use of English. JK Rowling, Anne McCafferey, Ursula le Guin and many others. As you say, the BBC news uses (normally) speakers who have a regional accent but speak well and clearly.
The next step could be audio books (with the written version available to check things you just can't get). (Again often the 'readers' use a regional accent, but speak clearly).
The HIGHEST gradient is to watch and listen to a video or film which has:
Regional Accents
Bad Grammar
Slang
Dialectical phrases and idioms
High-speed dialogues.
If you can watch 'Mad Max' and understand all that is said, your English is far better than mine!
Another minor point is - do not base your vocabulary or usage on the 'English Classics' Dickens, the Brontës, or even films from the 1950's. The grammar is usually good, but the usage is so different to modern English that you would sound 'foriegn'. (Even if you are!) Similarly poetry has its own rules (and lack of rules) so you cannot mimic a poetic style in normal conversation.
Though lovers be lost, love shall not, and Death shall have no dominion. - Dylan Thomas
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Hey! Thanks excaelis - Punjabi/celtic music (mixed by an Apache).
Very talented on stage too.
Though lovers be lost, love shall not, and Death shall have no dominion. - Dylan Thomas
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Thank you thar, I was a bit rushed last night.
My point was that, the way the pub name is phrased, besides the people being at Loggerheads (the park) and at loggerheads (arguing), they were loggerheads (maybe a play on words with 'blockheads'?).
Though lovers be lost, love shall not, and Death shall have no dominion. - Dylan Thomas
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