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Topic: Pro Lifers Really are Interested in Controlling Women - Study
Posted: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 4:23:09 PM
BobShilling wrote:
Listening . . . wrote:
Abortion IS murder. It really is just that simple.


No, it is not that simple. The fetus at one month is about the size of a grain of rice, completely incapable of thought, feeling or independent existence. To call the termination of such a tiny bundle of cells in the interests of the mental and/or physical health of the woman in whose womb it is located 'murder', particularly if it is there as a result of rape (including incest) is beyond reason.

Even at a far more advanced stage, termination when it would ensure the life of the woman bearing the fetus is not 'murder'.

As I've said in another thread, I don't think anyone advocates a fetus-bearing woman's absolute right to termination at any stage in the pregnancy, but there is no justification whatsoever for a blanket claim that abortion is murder.



There is no easy solution to this issue. However, to support abortion by leaning on the claim that a fetus is a clump of cells that feels no pain, ... talk to a NICU nurse. They are babies and they feel pain. Just because you can’t hear their screams doesn’t mean they aren’t hurting. They are being murdered. They are the most innocent and they need our protection.
Topic: Pro Lifers Really are Interested in Controlling Women - Study
Posted: Saturday, August 24, 2019 6:36:26 PM
Why (oh! WHY?!) is it so hard to believe that a pro-life supporter is really just supportive of saving an innocent life? I was on the other side of the fence for most of my life. Suddenly, like a beacon of light, it dawned on me. Abortion IS murder. It really is just that simple.
Topic: Trump is Taking Children from Parents Who Are Asylum Seekers
Posted: Thursday, June 21, 2018 4:04:13 PM
Lotje1000 wrote:
I read today that those children are also given drugs to manage their trauma.
Source.


I am hoping beyond hope that this is not true. If it turns out to be the case, I would not be shocked. What more accurate way is there to welcome someone to the country? A country that seeks a “one pill will fix it” mentality. Pharmaceutical drugs that are prescribed for minor symptoms and end up causing much more harm than good. (The original symptom begins to look attractive!) My disgust with the pharmaceutical companies and FDA is for another thread.
I don’t pray. But... I pray to the god of reason and compassion that they are NOT giving the detained kids drugs. Pray Pray
Topic: Trump is Taking Children from Parents Who Are Asylum Seekers
Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 5:36:09 PM


Hope, maybe ideas from Canada’s solution will help resolve the issue. Whatever takes place in the near future, I am hopeful it will be honed in order to avoid such catastrophe in the future.
Topic: Trump is Taking Children from Parents Who Are Asylum Seekers
Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 5:30:51 PM
Drag0nspeaker wrote:
Today, sometime about lunch time, the pres. said that he will do something unilaterally (exec order, I imagine) so that children can stay with parents - then get the law sorted out later.

This will probably involve violating the Flores ruling, so someone will be up in arms about him doing that.

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Hi Listening.
Quite a Tweet from Peter Fonda!

However, the last one calls for civil disobedience, not violence.

Big difference - Ask Gandhi!



You are correct, Dragon. Here’s another example of violence, by definition, being promoted - https://ijr.com/2018/06/1104526-occupy-wall-street-tells-migrants/
Topic: Trump is Taking Children from Parents Who Are Asylum Seekers
Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 1:40:46 PM
progpen wrote:
Listening . . . wrote:
I find it ironic that the loudest and angriest about the treatment of the children are also the ones calling for violence.


Hi Listening. Who is calling for violence? I've not seen discussions about this issue where those opposing the separation of children from their family are calling for violence, but would be very interested to know if it is happening.



Plenty of examples-

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/06/20/peter-fonda-tweets-wants-to-rip-barron-trump-from-his-mother-and-put-him-in-cage-with-pedophiles.amp.html

http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/17/kathy-griffin-attacks-melania-trump/

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/dhs-secretary-mexican-restaurant-heckled/

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/06/06/leftist-actor-goes-on-unhinged-rant-calling-for-a-trump-coup-hit-the-streets

Topic: Trump is Taking Children from Parents Who Are Asylum Seekers
Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 1:26:35 PM
Is it possible that we are not talking about monsters and evil but, rather ineffective laws that need to be revised? The ability to dehumanize is dangerous. I find it ironic that the loudest and angriest about the treatment of the children are also the ones calling for violence. The feeling of outrage is valid but the issues should have been corrected long ago. Case in point, https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/obama-administration-placed-children-with-human-traffickers-report-says/2016/01/28/39465050-c542-11e5-9693-933a4d31bcc8_story.html. From the article- The report concluded that administration “policies and procedures were inadequate to protect the children in the agency’s care.”

Securing the borders should not equate to being heartless. This will be fixed and it will be fixed under the Trump Administration.
Topic: On Political Correctness
Posted: Sunday, June 10, 2018 11:12:11 PM
Hello, All! This discussion on political correctness is long but very, very interesting and worth the watch. https://www.munkdebates.com/The-Debates/Political-Correctness
I thought 3 of the 4 presenters are excellent - curious if you agree or disagree on this point. (Stephen Fry, in particular, is outstanding!)
Topic: UN votes to reject US recognition of Jerusalem as capital.
Posted: Sunday, December 24, 2017 11:21:42 AM
This is definitely a tangent but an interesting perspective - https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/268113/leftists-and-jews-rabbi-shalom-lewis
Topic: Fear mongering
Posted: Saturday, December 23, 2017 12:14:44 PM
Hope123 wrote:
No problem, Listening. It is not worth the effort, anyhow.


Hope you have a great holiday with all your family and friends! Merry Christmas.

We are all ready. It helps when they are old enough to request gift cards to Lululemon and Best Buy and all you need is something for under the tree.

Plus they are doing the cooking this year. All I have to make is enough of my famous buns for twenty people and the bread machine makes that easy.

If there is no future thread to say it, I will add here now - "the best holiday wishes to all TFDers".


Thank you, Hope! I love this time of year! It FEELS good! Lots of cheer, fun music, lights, shopping, cooking, laughs, ... and ends with a renewed hope for a healthy, happy, successful (better) welcome to a new year!
As often as there are disagreements in any forum, I am a firm believer that everyone on this earth wants the same things, at the most basic levels. We all love our children/our family, we all don’t want to be hungry or sick, and we all want to feel valued as human beings. To all those out there within the range of my voice - May you find (and give) peace to this world that is yours and mine
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