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Topic: a cleft sentence
Posted: Saturday, January 11, 2020 4:55:54 AM
Thank you all!
Topic: a cleft sentence
Posted: Saturday, January 11, 2020 1:31:55 AM
All obstacles cleared.
Thank you both for your time and kindness.
And now I can make sentences like:
It's a fact I didn't know already exists.Angel
Topic: a cleft sentence
Posted: Friday, January 10, 2020 7:35:07 PM
Thank you very much, FounDit.

This is the book.
I don't know that he bought the book.
Can the two be merged?

This is the book [I don't know that he bought the book.]
This is the book that [I don't know that he bought]
= This is the book that I don't know that he bought.
?= This is the book I don't know he bought.

Another example,
This is the book.
I thought that the book was bought.

This is the book [I thought that the book was bought.]
= This is the book that [I thought that was bought.]
= This is the book that I thought that was bought.
? = This is the book I thought was bought.

What about these approaches?


Many thanks again.
Topic: a cleft sentence
Posted: Friday, January 10, 2020 10:58:53 AM
Hello all,

Can a compound sentence be turned into a cleft sentence?

1. I don't know that he bought the book.

The basic pattern of an IT cleft sentence is:
It + be verb + subject, object, etc + that/who relative clause


2. It is he who I don't know that bought the book.

I don't know how to deal with the underlined "that".
Maybe, a compound sentence cannot be turned into a cleft one?
Or is sentence 2 correct?



Thank you.
Topic: The snow falling overnight has turned to ice.
Posted: Friday, January 10, 2020 10:47:36 AM
Thank you for your time, thar. It really helps.Angel
Topic: the absolute
Posted: Friday, January 10, 2020 10:43:52 AM
Thank you for your time, Audiendus Angel
Topic: the absolute
Posted: Friday, January 10, 2020 5:51:54 AM
Got it. Thank you both.
It is the quoted sentence that makes me puzzled.
Topic: The snow falling overnight has turned to ice.
Posted: Friday, January 10, 2020 5:39:08 AM
Thank you both.

I learned somewhere that,
#1. a present participle can be transformed to be something like a progress to see whether it is justifiable in a sentence.

a. The snow falling overnight has turned to ice.
b. The snow that is/was falling overnight has turned to ice.
In 2. either way, the that-clause makes the whole sentence unreasonable.

(Let's regard the "ice" here as that on a skating rink)

#2 if a noun is modified by a present participle,
we need to see whether the noun is specific or general in meaning. If the noun is specific, then the "doing" ,consequently, means a specific action.
For example,
The boy sitting next to Alan is absent today.
"The boy" here refers to a specific one, so "sitting" means a specific notion accordingly, thus the whole sentence collapses.

Do the two points make sense?

Thanks again.



Topic: The snow falling overnight has turned to ice.
Posted: Thursday, January 9, 2020 2:04:20 PM
Hello everyone,

1. The snow falling overnight has turned to ice.
2. The snow, falling overnight, has turned to ice.

It's said #1 is correct while #2 is incorrect.
I believe that the statement is true, and the following is how I look at it:

In #1, "The snow falling overnight" means the specific snow that fell during the night period.It can now be ice when we see it on the next morning. It implies, for example,the snow that is falling now may have not turned into ice.

However,in #2, "The snow, falling overnight," does not draw a clear line about the time of different snowfalls. It seems the snow that is still falling has turned into ice. So it is not correct.

Does it make sense?
Please put me correct if I am wrong.


Thank you.
Topic: a paragraph
Posted: Thursday, January 2, 2020 11:01:38 AM
Edit: This is a paragraph from a senior 2 student.


Thank you, Romany