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mariel wrote:i don't get it...as far as i know, we're living in a real world..why wouldn't it matter whom we live with and instead give a higher consideration of whom we dream of?
I know I shouldn't carrying a discussions from one thread to the next, but oh! the irony. 
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TB wrote:Willa never met my ex (cocaine) but that is ancient history.
TB wrote:I should have said "ex wife" to make it clear.
Not that it's really my business, but as you mentioned it... Is cocaine addiction your 'ex that you awoke with' or was your ex wife called Cocaine or like cocaine.
I like the analogy of the first, as UserName said, Cathers' 'Whom' could mean ourselves... addictions an all.
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Bertrand Russell wrote:Man needs, for his happiness, not only the enjoyment of this or that, but hope and enterprise and change
And Duct Tape. As has been rightly mentioned before on these pages.
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seansarto wrote:Are you African by any chance?
I'm a great many things, depends on context. Pick any prejudice, I'm sure I could fit it somehow
seansarto wrote:Never said you were a spokesperson, (that's obvious)...but you are a "spoke"........Like an ant drone, most definitely...
Actually, that is exactly what you said. You took my words and attributed them to a country. That was one of the few clear points you made, alas still nothing like dialogue..
seansarto wrote:..It seems you like to substitute self-agrandizement with other people's concerns and experiences...
Specifically?
seansarto wrote:That you can be representational for what you are not...(an actor)....Talk about discrimination....Classic "Do unto others what you would NOT do unto you"...A fine bit of a pandering on your part...
This is not clear. Are you trying to say that you believe 'one can be representational for what you are not' or that in this instance 'I was / am representational for what [I am] not'. What specifically did you have in mind by "Do unto others what you would NOT do unto you"?
seansarto wrote:I'll skip it,..an just say
I'm done with you, Brit...
Wasn't aware you'd started, err...Bi-ped.
seansarto wrote:Only an idiot would not realize the two sides of a coin...
There are rarely only two sides, in my experience. Unless your 'coin' was meant literally, in which case, yes, two... well... actually the edge of a coin is considered a third side, and more in some cases, the Australian 50 cent coin, for example, has 12 sides on the edge plus the two faces. Gosh! Sometimes things are not as black and white as they first seem.
seansarto wrote:By that I could argue, very convincingly by the proof of history, that slavery was the best thing that ever happened to the heathen African...A kind of seed dispersion, from a naturalist POV, like kudzu....But then perhaps in that same vein, I would also be promoting the idiotic, BS "imperative" of the "Crown's Imperialist's Great White Burden"
The proof of history, from a naturalist POV, shows us the 'heathen African' had already began an ultimately successfully dispersal across the globe as early as 60,000 years ago. That's you and I, Brother. The dehumanising effects of slavery was only a very recent step backward in that process.
seansarto wrote:Today..it's my sense is that the UK wants the US to pay for her colony reparations....As I have heard that sentiment echoed by the Native Africans in those former colonies,
Specifically?
seansarto wrote: "You owe us!"...Well, Screw you, Africans and Britons...I owe you nothing...Hell, I did volunteer work in African-American communties for a long while in the US after working my 8 hours a day and got nothing for it but my car broken into and property stolen....Of course, they still don't shut up about wanting more and try to basically sell me back those items they had stolen from me in the first place...Once again, Screw you...I'm takin it back, like it was taken from me..."Iraq", "Africa", "China" "India" "Ireland" are all historically the Crown's F-Up's..In my understanding of the "Declaration of Independence", the US ain't yer drone...No matter how much Clinton loves Oxford.
Less with the hyperbole, try to make a point clearly. This is pushing moral equivalence to an absurd extreme.
seansarto wrote:I won't support socially engineering the US working class to become the "whore of the world"...No thanks....
Again, without some specific evidence that this is the case, you have no argument -- this is not dialogue.
seansarto wrote:Don't feign representational, for an American citizen, me, one with an extensive background in the working class, plus a veteran, (though not of a war, I admit), when you lack that same experience.
Again, not clear. Are you saying I tried to speak from an American perspective? I wouldn't even know how to define an 'American perspective'. If your diatribe tells us anything, it's that your 'American' perspective is very different from the (African) Americans that (all) break into your car and steal your belongings.
seansarto wrote:It seems to me though that in "War", bullets and bombs become opportunities and discriminates at the very same time while also being very effective at a clarity of differences...A difference between "Trash" and "Trash Talk" perhaps....There is at least a calibrated fear of fraudulence in War....
This sentence makes no sense. Clarifying differences and discriminating are synonymous. Could you really not have 'dumbed' this down to concise English... or American, if you prefer.
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seansarto wrote:"From what I can discern, you are confusing discrimination with opportunity."
This keen observation from a country that still has a Queen.
I'm flattered, but you give me too much credit. I am not considered the spokesman for the country... not yet. Even my influence over constitutional affairs is somewhat limited.
Another example of you confusing personal rights and freedoms with collective action and responsibility, perhaps.
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seansarto wrote:Nope, ain't gonna lower my standards...or dumb thigs down for you Will..
but I will amswer this question:
"War, huh, yeah
What is it good for?"
"Oh say can you see
By the Dawn's early light..."
That's a shame. Don't go complaining when people put words in your mouth... maybe the ambiguity helps your case, it's hard to tell.
From what I can discern, you are confusing discrimination with opportunity.
A may have no opportunity because they are discriminated against by B. Giving A opportunity is not,necessarily, discriminating against B, as / if they too have opportunity.
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bugdoctor wrote:will wrote:Was it Christie that also said "War! Huh! What is it good for?.."? Actually it's:
War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Uh-huh
War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again, y'all
etc.
Sung by Edwin Starr, by far his greatest hit.
Ah... that's it, I didn't think the face fit the voice, somehow.
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Ad hominem. My (perceived) demeanour is not relevant.
Do any of you proselytizing theists ever follow through?
Happy face.
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Bill Clinton wrote:Turning 50 gives me more yesterdays than tomorrows.
Potentially, this is always true.
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Was it Christie that also said "War! Huh! What is it good for?.."?
Seansarto, can you express that in a less verbose form? I lost interest about a third of the way through.
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