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Nobody has a more sacred obligation to obey the law than those who make the law. Options
Daemon
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Nobody has a more sacred obligation to obey the law than those who make the law.

Sophocles (496 BC-406 BC)
Mehrdad77
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Society is well governed when its people obey the magistrates, and the magistrates obey the law.
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Very aptly said.
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Justice is blind and let us follow justice!
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The law is the law no person is exempt from the law if they exempt then on law exist
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Punishment for breaking the law must be more severe for those who make the law... Why there isn't as of yet such law?
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That's simply the reality we are facing. Most of the time those who make the law are the first who rape it!
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It couldn't get any blunter or truer.

I couldn't agree more.

Wonderful quote!
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Okay. ... (to Sophocles) The value of autonomy! Will you figure this out?! ...It lies in the design of responsibility it creates: self-rule makes each of us accountable for shaping his own life according to some rational and peculiar sense of character, conviction and interest. It entitles us to lead our own lives rather than to be led along them, so that each of us can be, to the extent such a scheme of rights can make this possible, what he has made himself.

~ Ronald Dworkin (Is Democracy Possible Here?)


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Taxiarchis
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Naturally, naturally.
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Everyone is equal under the law (at least we're getting closer on this one). Those who make the law are under the same obligation as everyone else, it is neither more or less strict for them. At the same time when our lawmakers break the law it not only sets a bad example but makes us question the veracity of the laws being created by lawbreakers.
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WORD !!!!
Madas
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Hear, hear - as English opposition says booing position.
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lawmakers now are outlaws
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Nisar Akhtar wrote:
Justice is blind and let us follow justice!


The blind leading the blind? Whistle
I jest, this is a great quote.


When you make an assumption, you make an ass of u & umption! - NeuroticHellFem
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Pudiera ser, aunque la ley puede sirve a los intereses de quien la dicta más no de quienes la han de acatar.
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This quote is actually from a modern rewrite of Sophocles's Antigone by Jean Anouilh. Part VI
Here the context:


ANTIGONE. He was my brother.
CREON. You heard my edict. It was proclaimed throughout Thebes.
You read my edict. It was posted up on the city walls.
ANTIGONE. Yes. OF COURSE I DID.
CREON. You knew the punishment I decreed for any person who
attempted to give him burial.
ANTIGONE. Yes, I knew the punishment.
CREON. Did you by any chance act on the assumption that a daughter
of Oedipus, a daughter of Oedipus' stubborn pride, was above the law?
ANTIGONE. NO, I did not act on that assumption.

CREON. Because if you had acted on that assumption, Antigone, you
would have been deeply wrong. Nobody has a more sacred obligation to
obey the law than those who make the law.
You are a daughter of
lawmakers, a daughter of kings, Antigone. You must observe the law.


ANTIGONE. Had I been a scullery maid washing my dishes when that
law was read aloud to me, I should have scrubbed the greasy water from
my arms and gone out in my apron to bury my brother.


http://www.patrickstrain.com/PHS%202008.pdf
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Milica Boghunovich
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monamagda wrote:
This quote is actually from a modern rewrite of Sophocles's Antigone by Jean Anouilh. Part VI
Here the context:


ANTIGONE. He was my brother.
CREON. You heard my edict. It was proclaimed throughout Thebes.
You read my edict. It was posted up on the city walls.
ANTIGONE. Yes. OF COURSE I DID.
CREON. You knew the punishment I decreed for any person who
attempted to give him burial.
ANTIGONE. Yes, I knew the punishment.
CREON. Did you by any chance act on the assumption that a daughter
of Oedipus, a daughter of Oedipus' stubborn pride, was above the law?
ANTIGONE. NO, I did not act on that assumption.

CREON. Because if you had acted on that assumption, Antigone, you
would have been deeply wrong. Nobody has a more sacred obligation to
obey the law than those who make the law.
You are a daughter of
lawmakers, a daughter of kings, Antigone. You must observe the law.


ANTIGONE. Had I been a scullery maid washing my dishes when that
law was read aloud to me, I should have scrubbed the greasy water from
my arms and gone out in my apron to bury my brother.
http://www.patrickstrain.com/PHS%202008.pdf.


[size=7]Those who bully their way as "authorities" to "lead" others, those bullies are usually good at communication games. He is playing with Antigone even though Antigone is not the one who created the law herself and who has a better sense of her duty to her brother, and her duty to the natural law that supersedes any man-made laws.[[/size]/
Milica Boghunovich
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Daemon wrote:
Nobody has a more sacred obligation to obey the law than those who make the law.

Sophocles (496 BC-406 BC)


Yes, beware to create good laws....
Virginia Lathan
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When people ponder this thought, they also need to apply it to themselves and the laws of conscience. For instance, when my brothers, sisters, and I were children, one of the older women on our block convinced us to help her pass out telephone directories—those big books the phone company provides. She had a garage full of them, and she was getting paid to distribute them in our neighborhood. She promised if we helped that she would pay each of us $5, which was a lot of money for children to receive at that time. We agreed to do the work because, after all, she was an elder in our neighborhood, one of the people who set the common laws that we all were supposed to follow. The work was done in winter weather, and our little fingers and toes got really cold as we went house to house, block after block, dropping off the heavy directories. Finally, the day came when the job was done. It was about a week before Christmas, so we eagerly looked forward to our payment. Well, she never paid us. When we asked her about it, she had excuse after excuse as to why she couldn’t do it. Finally we just gave up asking and learned an early lesson that just because a person is in a position of authority, it doesn’t mean they’ll be fair. The incident never rose to any type of legal proceedings, but it’s the type of thing that I’m sure contributed to child labor laws being made. I only hope the people who made them were guided by Sophocles’ wisdom and followed them to the letter.
Steph Zhang
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i certanly like him
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lucienne zanga wrote:
That's simply the reality we are facing. Most of the time those who make the law are the first who rape it!



Yes Lucienne, a sad truth. And those rapists are all members of the same club.


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Ya, right. That and many dimes will get you a ride on the Staten Island Ferry.
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