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You see things; and you say "Why?" But I dream things that never were; and I say "Why not?" Options
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You see things; and you say "Why?" But I dream things that never were; and I say "Why not?"

George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
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I guess John F. Kennedy "borrowed" that quote for his famous inaugural speech.
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Daemon wrote:
You see things; and you say "Why?" But I dream things that never were; and I say "Why not?"

George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
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Human beings are the only creatures that can challenge reality, create your own and even measure it... How much does it cost?
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JFK's inaugural speech didn't use Shaw's quote at all. It was Robert F. Kennedy who frequently paraphrased Shaw in speeches in his last year or so of life, and finally Ted Kennedy who used the quote in his eulogy for RFK. Actually this is a frequently quoted or paraphrased passage, it tends to convey the speaker's visionary qualities (or what the speaker thinks his qualities are).
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Just surfed here, engulfed by the longing to see high-brow comments below, the quote itself isn't that important.
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The permanent temptation in life is to confuse dreams with reality. The permanent defeat in life comes when dreams are surrendered to reality.

(from The Drifters by James A. Michener)
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sarax wrote:
The permanent temptation in life is to confuse dreams with reality. The permanent defeat in life comes when dreams are surrendered to reality.



James A Michener (Do please acknowledge sources)
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GBS said this? I've heard the quote many times, without knowing the origin. I would have guessed this to have been an H G Wells, Jules Verne or even P K Dick quote. Coming from Shaw, this seems pretentious.
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Welcome to the forums Sarax, FR, Mactoria, Jeff Liss


Never read the quote in context but as a single statement Shaw seems to elevate himself as the visionary, compared with you (us, everyone except him) the mere inquirer.

However, I never knew him and may be reading too much into the passage.



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That's what i do call confidence in predictions and inventions.....perfect attitude to be withheld by each of us
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Daemon wrote:
You see things; and you say "Why?" But I dream things that never were; and I say "Why not?"

George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)



I'm not sure where this originated. It sounds like CP Snow's 'Two Cultures' argument, Art v Science. However, it might have come from the mouth of an inventor. 'Flight by man is impossible' or similar has been uttered by many, subsequently red-faced scientists. I suspect that GBS is taking the Art cause though.
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Context:

This quote is from the play "Back to Methuselah"- In the Beginning - ACT I

THE SERPENT. Death is not an unhappy thing when you have learnt how to
conquer it.

EVE. How can I conquer it?

THE SERPENT. By another thing, called birth.

EVE. What? [_Trying to pronounce it_] B-birth?

THE SERPENT. Yes, birth.

EVE. What is birth?

THE SERPENT. The serpent never dies. Some day you shall see me come out
of this beautiful skin, a new snake with a new and lovelier skin. That
is birth.

EVE. I have seen that. It is wonderful.

THE SERPENT. If I can do that, what can I not do? I tell you I am very
subtle. When you and Adam talk, I hear you say 'Why?' Always 'Why?' You
see things; and you say 'Why?' But I dream things that never were; and I
say 'Why not?'
I made the word dead to describe my old skin that I cast
when I am renewed. I call that renewal being born.

EVE. Born is a beautiful word.

THE SERPENT. Why not be born again and again as I am, new and beautiful
every time?

EVE. I! It does not happen: that is why.

THE SERPENT
. That is how; but it is not why. Why not?

Read the play :http://www.online-literature.com/george_bernard_shaw/back-to-methuselah/2/


This quotation from Back to Methuselah is frequently misattributed to Robert F. Kennedy, even though Kennedy stated that he was quoting Shaw—"You see things; and you say, 'Why?' But I dream things that never were; and I say, 'Why not?'
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I agree, but as George would attest - no one else will learn of your 'why not' dreams until you are dead.
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his plays are great
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George Bernard Shaw was an evil, socialist, eugenicist. Shaw dreamed of murdering millions that seemed unfit to him, and his evil ilk.

Watch, "George Bernard Shaw Defends Hitler, Mass Murder" on youtube.

Socialists with an eugenicist bent are evil scum!!! Socialism is the devil's religion.
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Because you're a kooky old man with a limited imagination.
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Jeff Liss wrote:
I guess John F. Kennedy "borrowed" that quote for his famous inaugural speech.


Robert Kennedy also used that quote. I don't remember the occasion whether it was in his run for the presidential nomination or as a tribute to his brother. Regardless, it is a great line.
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Ozolinsh V. wrote:
Just surfed here, engulfed by the longing to see high-brow comments below, the quote itself isn't that important.


Think What is important?!? Just ponder how much nonsense people say each day from the ordinary people to those who hold highest positions in societies all around the world.

High-brow?!!!!!!!Brick wall

Shaw is a genius who usually does not say nonsense, and he has the right to have the vision for better society for all people. Think how unfair, unjust, and preposterous it is that medical insurance is not free for every living being, but it is free for "anonymous" alcoholics, drug addicts, sex addicts, food addicts, etc.
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Dismas wrote:
George Bernard Shaw was an evil, socialist, eugenicist. Shaw dreamed of murdering millions that seemed unfit to him, and his evil ilk.

Watch, "George Bernard Shaw Defends Hitler, Mass Murder" on youtube.

Socialists with an eugenicist bent are evil scum!!! Socialism is the devil's religion.


Brick wall Evil ANTI-SHAW PROPAGANDA!

Shaw was not just a socialist (or in deeper analysis, not a socialist at all), but a giant of a constructive critic and a great mind that cuts through hypocrisy of people filled with lies and greedy money-power hoarding disease exploiting decent people and making them poor deliberately (the dishonest rich vs. the decent, hardworking poor or semi-poor). The British do not like him because he exposes the "fine gentleman" who is involved in prostitution and supports prostitution and other evils plaguing the people and other living beings.
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monamagda wrote:
Context:

This quote is from the play "Back to Methuselah"- In the Beginning - ACT I

THE SERPENT. Death is not an unhappy thing when you have learnt how to
conquer it.

EVE. How can I conquer it?

THE SERPENT. By another thing, called birth.

EVE. What? [_Trying to pronounce it_] B-birth?

THE SERPENT. Yes, birth.

EVE. What is birth?

THE SERPENT. The serpent never dies. Some day you shall see me come out
of this beautiful skin, a new snake with a new and lovelier skin. That
is birth.

EVE. I have seen that. It is wonderful.

THE SERPENT. If I can do that, what can I not do? I tell you I am very
subtle. When you and Adam talk, I hear you say 'Why?' Always 'Why?' You
see things; and you say 'Why?' But I dream things that never were; and I
say 'Why not?'
I made the word dead to describe my old skin that I cast
when I am renewed. I call that renewal being born.

EVE. Born is a beautiful word.

THE SERPENT. Why not be born again and again as I am, new and beautiful
every time?

EVE. I! It does not happen: that is why.

THE SERPENT
. That is how; but it is not why. Why not?

Read the play :http://www.online-literature.com/george_bernard_shaw/back-to-methuselah/2/


This quotation from Back to Methuselah is frequently misattributed to Robert F. Kennedy, even though Kennedy stated that he was quoting Shaw—"You see things; and you say, 'Why?' But I dream things that never were; and I say, 'Why not?'


Applause Applause Applause Thank you for being the first one to provide all of us with the context!
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[quote=Absurdicuss]
Welcome to the forums Sarax, FR, Mactoria, Jeff Liss


Never read the quote in context but as a single statement Shaw seems to elevate himself as the visionary, compared with you (us, everyone except him) the mere inquirer.

However, I never knew him and may be reading too much into the passage.


Applause Joining the welcome!Applause

GBS does not compare himself to anyone... For those who secretly fear and dislike GBS, it is hard to admit that GBS is a visionary and a constructive critic of the hypocrisy of those who naturally do not like him (the British and the pretend-socialists with their false charities - King of the Hill type -... GBS counted with the dislike, but that does not diminish the magnitude of his crucial work for all decent people on this planet.
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You see things; and you say "Why?" But I dream things that never were; and I say "Why not?"

George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)

Whether it is Shaw's original quote or a quote somebody created thousands years ago, so what...!

What is important is that Shaw is saying that YES SHAW IS THE RARE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS A WORTHY VISION AND COURAGE TO STAND UP AGAINST THE LIES OF MONEY MANIPULATORS AND OTHER RELATED TYPES OF CORRUPTION THAT PLAGUE THE LIFE OF DECENT INDIVIDUALS LIKE GBS, YOU, AND ME.

Shaw is also saying that the change is possible if we all throw off the old skin and put on a new perpetual renewal skin (snake metaphor - snake as a symbol of mysterious life energy, medical symbol, too), all ready for true spirituality, for THE LIVING WAGES where nobody will be "King-of-the-Hill" lording over valuable people (you and me) who are doing honest decent work, and yet paid shameful minimum wage.
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Milica Boghunovich wrote:
Ozolinsh V. wrote:
Just surfed here, engulfed by the longing to see high-brow comments below, the quote itself isn't that important.


Think What is important?!? Just ponder how much nonsense people say each day from the ordinary people to those who hold highest positions in societies all around the world.

High-brow?!!!!!!!Brick wall

Shaw is a genius who usually does not say nonsense, and he has the right to have the vision for better society for all people. Think how unfair, unjust, and preposterous it is that medical insurance is not free for every living being, but it is free for "anonymous" alcoholics, drug addicts, sex addicts, food addicts, etc.


Seems like you took it personally, so sad for you, I actually did not address it to anyone, and the word high-brow was used as a bait :D
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Not talking Eh? Shhh d'oh! Liar Shame on you Brick wall Speak to the hand Drool Anxious
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None so blind as those who will not see.
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These intellects always say things and one may be in awe, but in reality they use their own words and quote from the book that has been in most circulation, the Bible.
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