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Daemon
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Liberty: One of imagination's most precious possessions.

Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)
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Daemon wrote:
Liberty: One of imagination's most precious possessions.

Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)


An ambiguous quote. Meaning either: liberty is a concept of the imagination; or, liberty is our greatest concept. Bierce could have worded his thought better, or perhaps it's clearer when taken in its context.

When you make an assumption, you make an ass of u & umption! - NeuroticHellFem
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He's right - liberty is not much more than self-deception. We're all in bondage to one thing or another.
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Liberty and slavery are just two extreme readings on one dial. In case at hand - of imagination.
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From: "The Unabridged Devil's Dictionary" By Ambrose Bierce


Liberty, n One of imagination's most precious possessions.

The rising People, hot and out of breath,
Roared round the palace: "Liberty or Death!"
"If death will do," The King said, "let me reign;
You'll have, I'm sure, no reason to complain."
Martha Braymance.
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"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe are free." -- Goethe
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I see the ideal of liberty in this age as a result of fragile values in people's lives; these values cannot be misused. They differ from one person to another, having one thing in common: our instinct. Saying: the liberty from someone begins where the oppression of another starts, is like saying: prepare for war. I don't go along with that negativism. So I can conclude that some distinct form of common liberty can indeed exist and survive, in actual daylife. I say this, knowing that so many thoughts are in fact idealistic expressions, as my own thoughts are.
Emcee Pandey
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Bang on! We all want liberty and it still alludes us all!
Joy Gomes
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I think it's more like the speed and quick achievemente of the liberty it brings
Verbatim
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Daemon wrote:
Liberty: One of imagination's most precious possessions.

Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)


Constitutional liberties, like the type of democracy spawning them, can be categorized as 1) fictitious and 2) make-believe: Imaginary all the same.
Fictitious when existing on paper yet not allowed in reality, such as the communist democracies pretend to guarantee.
Make-believe when the rights existing on paper are allowed to be exercised knowing full well the exercise is futile, such as the more subtle Western democracies pretend to guarantee.
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Tyranny consumes the personal liberty of the common man. Liberty as defined by the patriots who fought against tyranny during the revolutionary war was possible then, and is possible now. But alas, it may take another war to find it again.

Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself. Leo Tolstoy
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it is a illusion
Gary98
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striker wrote:
it is a illusion


Liberty can be tangible only after it is lost, and a chain is put on us.
TB Turtle
Posted: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 7:31:12 PM

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Liberty was not achieved by our Founders. There was bitter, ugly arguments and at times Duels with one another to form this country. And yes, it is a constant threat of slipping downhill. Due diligence is every American's responsibility. What helps to keep it all in check is Following the money, a free press, free speech and yes, that includes religious expression. Lobbyist write our laws and our representatives never read what they are passing. It is stressful but can't think of another country I would want to call home.
Dosei Iantha Evans
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...mind psychology is confusing.d'oh!
Fredric-frank Myers
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So very, VERY true. Just ask a young man by the name of, Edward Joseph "Ed" Snowden. We carry this idea; "Liberty: One of imagination's most precious possessions." with us but does it ever really truly exist. I gave 7 years of military service and 30% of my body to this country so that we could have and enjoy Liberty, and then, G.W. Bush & Dick Cheney destroyed that idea almost over night.
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