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Daemon
Posted: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:00:00 AM
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Secondhand Smoke

Secondhand smoke is cigarette, cigar, or pipe smoke that is inhaled unintentionally by nonsmokers. The amount of such smoke inhaled by a nonsmoker is relatively small when compared to the amount inhaled by a tobacco user; however, so-called passive smoking can aggravate respiratory illnesses and contribute to serious diseases, including cancer. This danger has led many countries to adopt smoking bans in indoor spaces. How has the tobacco industry responded to the issue of secondhand smoke? More...
MarySM
Posted: Monday, February 15, 2010 7:47:42 AM

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They have taken legal action against the EPA. I am so glad almost everyone I know does not smoke. It annoys me that coworkers who are smokers leave work to go outside about 4 times each day for cigarette breaks while those of us who don't smoke stay and work.

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Drew
Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 1:23:10 PM
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MarySM wrote:
They have taken legal action against the EPA. I am so glad almost everyone I know does not smoke. It annoys me that coworkers who are smokers leave work to go outside about 4 times each day for cigarette breaks while those of us who don't smoke stay and work.


I agree with you. It seems like employers who allow smoking breaks are only acting as enablers. Personally, I think everyone should be allowed to make his or her own decisions with regard to their own body, but it does seem patently unfair to essentially reward smokers with breaks that are not available to non-smokers.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:08:02 PM
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"while those of us who don't smoke stay and work"

or just calmly sleep hidden behind our computer screens...

from.russia )))

we can ride a stormy weather if we all get out and try (c).
TYSON
Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 5:02:52 PM

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I hope they dont discover that second-hand books are also dangerous.

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Maggie
Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 6:50:29 PM

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Drew wrote:
MarySM wrote:
They have taken legal action against the EPA. I am so glad almost everyone I know does not smoke. It annoys me that coworkers who are smokers leave work to go outside about 4 times each day for cigarette breaks while those of us who don't smoke stay and work.


I agree with you. It seems like employers who allow smoking breaks are only acting as enablers. Personally, I think everyone should be allowed to make his or her own decisions with regard to their own body, but it does seem patently unfair to essentially reward smokers with breaks that are not available to non-smokers.




Many businesses define breaks and the time allotted to them for everyone on staff. I don't think a business should tell anyone whether they can smoke or not. If in the name of good health we say that it's ok to do this, then how will you feel if your company tells you you that you are not allowed to drink a Coke or eat a Honeybun during your break? After all, sugar is, arguably, more dangerous to our health than cigarettes.

As for the second hand smoke, the WHO once did a study (which they immediately buried because of the hardline responses) which showed that second hand smoke had no carcinogenic affect on others. NONE. Zip. Nada.

But finding this study is difficult (though not impossible) because, as in the case of global warming, the end apparently justifies the means. Get your version of the message out. Make it so at any cost.

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nooblet
Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 8:37:01 PM

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Maggie, whether or not second hand smoke has carcinogenic effects or not, it still exacerbates people who are predisposed to lung problems. My entire family has lung problems. My twin brother has had bronchitis and pnuemonia several times, same with my mom. We tend to get lung infections from being around smokers, if not asthmatic attacks. My health was at its worst when my mom was dating a smoker. Even though he smoked outside, the stuff that stuck to his clothes made me cough frequently and I found myself getting lung infections several times a year. I haven't had a lung infection in about 3 years, and I haven't been around smokers for that long.

So yes, second hand smoke can be harmful to bystanders.
Maggie
Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:23:05 PM

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nooblet wrote:
Maggie, whether or not second hand smoke has carcinogenic effects or not, it still exacerbates people who are predisposed to lung problems. My entire family has lung problems. My twin brother has had bronchitis and pnuemonia several times, same with my mom. We tend to get lung infections from being around smokers, if not asthmatic attacks. My health was at its worst when my mom was dating a smoker. Even though he smoked outside, the stuff that stuck to his clothes made me cough frequently and I found myself getting lung infections several times a year. I haven't had a lung infection in about 3 years, and I haven't been around smokers for that long.

So yes, second hand smoke can be harmful to bystanders.


So can women's perfume.

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Maggie
Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:29:04 PM

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Maggie wrote:
nooblet wrote:
Maggie, whether or not second hand smoke has carcinogenic effects or not, it still exacerbates people who are predisposed to lung problems. My entire family has lung problems. My twin brother has had bronchitis and pnuemonia several times, same with my mom. We tend to get lung infections from being around smokers, if not asthmatic attacks. My health was at its worst when my mom was dating a smoker. Even though he smoked outside, the stuff that stuck to his clothes made me cough frequently and I found myself getting lung infections several times a year. I haven't had a lung infection in about 3 years, and I haven't been around smokers for that long.

So yes, second hand smoke can be harmful to bystanders.


So can women's perfume.


If I could have amended my reply I would have done so because I don't want to appear 'catty'. My response simply points out that there are a number of things that - individually - to which we do not wish to be exposed - for a variety of reasons. I was also responding to a post above that said businesses are enabling smokers by providing them with a designated smoking area. Again, we should be careful what we want. If we take away smoking areas (you as an individual don't have to frequent these if you have an allergy), then why not take away the drink and candy machines? Are we not 'enabling' those who have a health problem caused by too much refined sugar?


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nooblet
Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:32:06 PM

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I haven't heard of perfume being harmful, but I can imagine if it contains certain ingredients it could. If this is actually the case, such ingredients should be under the same restrictions.

Either way, do you honestly think it is perfectly acceptable to ruin other people's lives simply to sate one's own desire? Where does the line get drawn, then?
nooblet
Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:40:20 PM

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I think I may have sent the wrong message in my first post. I wasn't advocating that people shouldn't be able to smoke at all. I don't mind the smoking areas and think that these are a GOOD thing. I think that people have the right to smoke, and as long as they are able to keep their smoke away from the people that dislike/are harmed from it, I have absolutely no problem. It's once the smokers' actions have detrimental effects on others that I have a problem.

I'm sure a smoker wouldn't want to have to pay for my antibiotics and the time I have to take off from work when I get a lung infection. I don't want to have to pay for that stuff either, let alone suffer through the actual lung infection. I'm not saying that smokers are inconsiderate, because I know quite a few that are considerate. However, I have also had a few professors who were blindly stubborn on the matter and refused to hear any argument from the other side because they were convinced that people just didn't want them to be able to enjoy their cigarettes or pipes. I am a little bitter towards the latter group.
gebie
Posted: Thursday, February 18, 2010 9:32:18 PM
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i hope that for those people who smoke....must also think of others whom they harm through their smoking than thinking first their own desire.
gebie
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i know it is hard to quit from it(because i see it also happens to my Uncle)but still,most of us know that smoking is like a ripper!!! It can rips your life...

Hey!!! for those smokers, i don't want to annoy you.... .^_^.

Guys and gals, G
gebie
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i know it is hard to quit from it(because i see it also happens to my Uncle)but still,most of us know that smoking is like a ripper!!! It can rips your life...

Hey!!! for those smokers, i don't want to annoy you.... .^_^.
God Bless!!!
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