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Daemon
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We praise a man who feels angry on the right grounds and against the right persons and also in the right manner at the right moment and for the right length of time.

Aristotle (384 BC-322 BC)
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Really? We praise someone for being angry? I think not! Anger is a vice. It is not something to be proud of, nor is it something to strive towards. It is a vice which needs to be overcome. Righteous anger is another matter. To be angry that millions are starving in a world where tons of food is wasted--that is something we should be angry over. But most people tend to complacency in matters such as these.

Be the change you wish to see in the world!-Gandhi
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Provided that it's the right ground, towards the right person, moment, time. :D
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To comply with all these conditions while being angry? Mission almost impossible, except maybe for Aristotle himself.
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Aristotle was absolutely right! There are situations that your anger is natural and right. You must act in some way in a particular situation and moment. Anger can be positive and fair.

If something is totally out of YOUR control this anger can be destructive for you. That's why he wrote about the right moment as well.
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Cut out of context, this quote seems patently bereft of much wisdom, that one is so used from superior brains, the likes of Aristotle!
Praising a base trait like 'anger' may only become praiseworthy in some rare situations, that Aristotle might have had in his mind- not clearly seen from the quote.
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There is nothing impossible if you are completely right all the time. How is this possible though?
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Almost never.
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I feel a bit angry over all these politically correct people.
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Clever quotation. Lucretius is still my fav'.
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You opine Mon...: 'We praise someone for being angry? I think not! Anger is a vice.'

Not so. The scriptures allow for anger.

Ephesians 4:26 (NKJV)

26 “Be angry, and do not sin”:[a] do not let the sun go down on your wrath

Anger is a natural human emotion and worthy of praise when exercised in a just cause.


'Life is too short to be eaten up by hate.'
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Right
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I agree with moniguester and ithink140, and we praise thinkers too!
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How can anger be a vice? It is but a strong emotion/reaction to something that is wrong, something that greatly displeases us, and it usually comes with a desire to retaliate. However, how one retaliates is the issue. Some people stand back and think about their feelings, analyse the validity of the strong emotion and find a constructive way to deal with the problem at hand. Others jump the gun and want to immediately hit back. Anger can be a healthy and rightful reaction but how one deals with it is what matters.
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The quote in context:

From "NICOMACHEAN ETHICS" By Aristotle
Book IV Part 5
Written 350 B.C.E)

Translated by W. D. Ross

"Good temper is a mean with respect to anger; the middle state being unnamed, and the extremes almost without a name as well, we place good temper in the middle position, though it inclines towards the deficiency, which is without a name. The excess might called a sort of 'irascibility'. For the passion is anger, while its causes are many and diverse.

The man who is angry at the right things and with the right people, and, further, as he ought, when he ought, and as long as he ought, is praised. This will be the good-tempered man, then, since good temper is praised. For the good-tempered man tends to be unperturbed and not to be led by passion, but to be angry in the manner, at the things, and for the length of time, that the rule dictates; but he is thought to err rather in the direction of deficiency; for the good-tempered man is not revengeful, but rather tends to make allowances.

The deficiency, whether it is a sort of 'inirascibility' or whatever it is, is blamed. For those who are not angry at the things they should be angry at are thought to be fools, and so are those who are not angry in the right way, at the right time, or with the right persons; for such a man is thought not to feel things nor to be pained by them, and, since he does not get angry, he is thought unlikely to defend himself; and to endure being insulted and put up with insult to one's friends is slavish."

Read the book online : http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/nicomachaen.4.iv.html
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Daemon wrote:
We praise a man who feels angry on the right grounds and against the right persons and also in the right manner at the right moment and for the right length of time.

Aristotle (384 BC-322 BC)


All other "anger" notwithstanding, what's left as praiseworthy must indeed be a virtue, because of fairness and self-control!

However, anger is ill-serving enough: add to it a dose of self pity and righteousness and you get the mix of nitroglycerin--very unstable.
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I think the American revolution was base on people who angry about the British about the unfairness, now we have a great country.
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It seems to me that Aristotle is placing so many conditions on praiseworthy anger that his intent could be to say that anger in almost all cases isn't commendable.
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Sounds like he is talking about a fight or a war.
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He's saying that we only feel that another person's anger is justified if it fits into our own narrow set of requirements.

Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men.
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Anyone who pays attention to reality is angry all the time due to the wickedness that envelopes us all.

The key is how to manage it for constructive purposes.

I believe it all works to the good in the end, but between now and then will get ever more "hairy" for more and more people.

The best way to control the opposition is to finance it. Birds of prey have two wings; the left wing & right wing.
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Posted: Monday, June 23, 2014 12:20:02 AM
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Daemon wrote:
We praise a man who feels angry on the right grounds and against the right persons and also in the right manner at the right moment and for the right length of time.

Aristotle (384 BC-322 BC)


Could he have anticipated and justified the road rage of the driver being cut in 50 feet before the red light by some idiot texting?
Under all other right circumstances, of course?Think
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