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Daemon
Posted: Friday, January 22, 2010 12:00:00 AM
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A time will come when a politician who has willfully made war and promoted international dissension will be as sure of the dock and much surer of the noose than a private homicide. It is not reasonable that those who gamble with men's lives should not stake their own.

H.G. Wells (1866-1946)
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War is a consequence of power unleashed not because of belief in own strength but knowing weakness of opponent.
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Posted: Friday, January 22, 2010 3:08:11 AM
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All the violaters of human rights should heed this. The men at the helm who think they are immune from persecution
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How about using eugenics with politicians, Mr. Wells? They're not much low class people, as far as I know. This is a good example of nazi demagogy.
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Posted: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:49:38 AM

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This is one terrific quote. I wish George W. Bush has headed the wise words of Mr. Wells before he waged his wars.

Slapneck I don't understand your comment.

"He who never made a mistake never made a discovery." Samuel Smiles
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Posted: Friday, January 22, 2010 10:30:15 AM

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It's interesting to note that Mr Wells lived long enough to see nations and leaderships heeding this sage comment, in charging the leaders of the Axis nations for their crimes against society, even if he didn't live quite long enough for the outcomes. Others do need to take heed; the precedent is already set, and in legal circles, once there is a precedent to follow, it gets much easier to do again.

fair winds and following seas
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Posted: Friday, January 22, 2010 10:35:38 AM
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who can explain this hard-to-capture quote to me? Especially the first long sentence. Thanks a lot.
Isaac Samuel
Posted: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:32:33 AM

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Yes,I can. Please read my post today under "Pills to treat MS on the horizon" in the news section and see if it rings a bell.

I was born a few years before HG wells died, and bequeathed a legacy to carry his torch.
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Posted: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:43:36 AM
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These were the very different cases which you were mangling them together. You may be experienced enough to see on hell what IT is, but what other need is explanation which is worth more than outrage only.

Isaac Samuel wrote:
Yes,I can. Please read my post today under "Pills to treat MS on the horizon" in the news section and see if it rings a bell.

I was born a few years before HG wells died, and bequeathed a legacy to carry his torch.
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Is might right or is right might?
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MarySM wrote:
This is one terrific quote. I wish George W. Bush has headed the wise words of Mr. Wells before he waged his wars.

Slapneck I don't understand your comment.


Bush at least attempted to serve in the military.
uuaschbaer
Posted: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:17:51 PM

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Staking your own life does not give you the right to gamble others'.

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Posted: Friday, January 22, 2010 4:05:00 PM

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cheri wrote:
Bush at least attempted to serve in the military.

Well... sort of.
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captaina wrote:
who can explain this hard-to-capture quote to me? Especially the first long sentence. Thanks a lot.

Hi,

The first sentence is comparing people in power, who have caused deaths in war to people who commit murder (homicide). It further states that at some time in the future, those who send others to war, (at least those who do so without going themselves), shall be judged to be murderers and punished more severely than an individual murderer.

"At (or in) the dock" is a British English term for being on trial and "the noose" is a reference to being hanged.

Hope that helps.
captaina
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Hi RuthP, so nice that you helped expalain it. The sentence is much more clear after your translation.

Sure, offensive war is always bad, and so is defensive war mostly. The leader should in part takes responsibility of it. It is a wise word, but too hard to be implemented.

RuthP wrote:
captaina wrote:
who can explain this hard-to-capture quote to me? Especially the first long sentence. Thanks a lot.

Hi,

The first sentence is comparing people in power, who have caused deaths in war to people who commit murder (homicide). It further states that at some time in the future, those who send others to war, (at least those who do so without going themselves), shall be judged to be murderers and punished more severely than an individual murderer.

"At (or in) the dock" is a British English term for being on trial and "the noose" is a reference to being hanged.

Hope that helps.
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