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In quarreling about the shadow we often lose the substance. Options
Daemon
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In quarreling about the shadow we often lose the substance.

Aesop (620 BC-560 BC)
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Daemon wrote:
In quarreling about the shadow we often lose the substance.

Aesop (620 BC-560 BC)


Two brilliant insights, back to back.

This is key tactic that of the Biggest Finance Capital financed control system.

The best way to control the opposition is to finance it. Birds of prey have two wings; the left wing & right wing.
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Between the thought and the action lies the shadow

Sanity is not statistical
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Daemon wrote:
In quarreling about the shadow we often lose the substance.

Aesop (620 BC-560 BC)


Most people don't know what substance is until they lose it. Though there's a few special one-of-a-kinds whom even that don't help. And if someone who lost something take lesson from its losing then it isn't all substance lost for him yet.
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A significant quote I see as if the whole wisdom has incarnated in it.
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I agree! It's a brilliant quote and everyday life shows the truth of these words.
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Monkey brain should be avoided

Sanity is not statistical
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Read the complete fable!


THE ASS AND ITS SHADOW




A Traveler had hired an Ass to carry him to a distant part of the country. The owner of the Ass went with the Traveler, walking beside him to drive the Ass and point out the way.

The road led across a treeless plain where the Sun beat down fiercely. So intense did the heat become, that the Traveler at last decided to stop for a rest, and as there was no other shade to be found, the Traveler sat down in the shadow of the Ass.

Now the heat had affected the Driver as much as it had the Traveler, and even more, for he had been walking. Wishing also to rest in the shade cast by the Ass, he began to quarrel with the Traveler, saying he had hired the Ass and not the shadow it cast.

The two soon came to blows, and while they were fighting, the Ass took to its heels.

In quarreling about the shadow we often lose the substance.


Aesop for Children (translator not identified), 1919. Illustrations by Milo Winter (1886-1956). Available online at Project Gutenberg.
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Exy - Excellent quote, as profound as Aesop's. I wish I'd have written it. I hope you don't mind if I repeat it, giving you credit of course.


"Now" is the eternal present.
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Some shadows are better and have more fun than the substance.
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Erased. No immediate chance to delete, only to edit.

Most of the trouble in the world is caused by people wanting to be important. T. S. Eliot
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Sorry for the duplication.


Most of the trouble in the world is caused by people wanting to be important. T. S. Eliot
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We always care for the trivial while we neglect the core .
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if we quarrel, we can't clarify our answer.
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Daemon wrote:
In quarreling about the shadow we often lose the substance.

Aesop (620 BC-560 BC)

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Fighting about the shadow…it doesn't always make you lose the substance.

At least not in boxing.
People don't acknowledge it, but shadowboxing is as important as fighting a real opponent.

And thanks, monamagda, that was nice.
monamagda
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capitán wrote:
Daemon wrote:
In quarreling about the shadow we often lose the substance.

Aesop (620 BC-560 BC)

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Fighting about the shadow…it doesn't always make you lose the substance.

At least not in boxing.
People don't acknowledge it, but shadowboxing is as important as fighting a real opponent.

And thanks, monamagda, that was nice.
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In quarreling about the shadow we often lose the substance...Think

Ahh, this is a timeless strategy used in all forms of negotiation from international disputes to the red herrings used in place of evidence in both court and politics. It is the unfailing scrap of meat tossed into the ring to get all parties in a scuffle whilst the puppet masters gleefully steer popular opinion to their own purpose. (Ken Oliver) Whistle
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Daemon wrote:
In quarreling about the shadow we often lose the substance.

Aesop (620 BC-560 BC)


Sometimes the substance is not worth quarreling about, only its shadow seems to have immediate value. Catch that if you can!

""Between the idea
And the reality
Between the motion
And the act
Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom"" Excerpt from T.S. Eliot's poem "The Hollow Men"
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Thank you monamagda for posting The Ass And Its Shadow fable. Out of context, Aesop's quote of the day reminded me of the Allegory of the Cave.
karia h
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How do you think this will be related to "One day you will realize that you've lost a diamond because you are too busy collecting stones"?

How can you differentiate or associate the two from one another if there's any association at all?

William39
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monamagda wrote:
Read the complete fable!


THE ASS AND ITS SHADOW




A Traveler had hired an Ass to carry him to a distant part of the country. The owner of the Ass went with the Traveler, walking beside him to drive the Ass and point out the way.

The road led across a treeless plain where the Sun beat down fiercely. So intense did the heat become, that the Traveler at last decided to stop for a rest, and as there was no other shade to be found, the Traveler sat down in the shadow of the Ass.

Now the heat had affected the Driver as much as it had the Traveler, and even more, for he had been walking. Wishing also to rest in the shade cast by the Ass, he began to quarrel with the Traveler, saying he had hired the Ass and not the shadow it cast.

The two soon came to blows, and while they were fighting, the Ass took to its heels.

In quarreling about the shadow we often lose the substance.


Aesop for Children (translator not identified), 1919. Illustrations by Milo Winter (1886-1956). Available online at Project Gutenberg.
William39
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Good job monamagda !!!
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