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Daemon
Posted: Monday, April 7, 2014 12:00:00 AM
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Distrust interested advice.

Aesop (620 BC-560 BC)
Bully_rus
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All people around are "interested", only in different degree and with different polarity. Take advice and you will know exactly who is who.
Bertoray
Posted: Monday, April 7, 2014 3:04:02 AM

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Advisers with a dog in the race may not indeed serve your best interest.
Trivium_Discipulus
Posted: Monday, April 7, 2014 3:27:14 AM
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Daemon wrote:
Distrust interested advice.

Aesop (620 BC-560 BC)


Yet the average establishment gobemouche trusts the private Money Power to use its bipartisan government monopoly to define money (you'll never get to vote on that!) and then conjure "money" as inextinguishable debt out of thin air!

I literally can not communicate 5th grade level math to people with masters degrees in finance and economics, as well as physicians.

I don't like the term "mind control," but I do think self interested perception management does apply rather well.

The Trivium Method is our best way out of this mess... grammar (get the relevant date), logic (rationally apply logic, identify and remove contradictions, identify and remove logical fallacies), and then let the chips where they may (it is delusion to think our desires determine reality and most people are completely delusion a significant part of their lives).

The best way to control the opposition is to finance it. Birds of prey have two wings; the left wing & right wing.
MechPebbles
Posted: Monday, April 7, 2014 4:01:11 AM

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You can trust a person with vested interests if your interest lines up with his.
TheParser
Posted: Monday, April 7, 2014 6:09:01 AM
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That's why automobile salesmen are held in such low esteem here in the States.
monamagda
Posted: Monday, April 7, 2014 7:25:16 AM

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Listen to your elders' advice. Not because they are always right, but because they have more experience of Being Wrong.
Haz
Posted: Monday, April 7, 2014 8:23:57 AM

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You should always consider the motives of your adviser. If I am advised by my parents, I know they are looking out for me and trying to assist me with all good intentions.
pedro
Posted: Monday, April 7, 2014 8:33:40 AM

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The quote could have come from Machiavelli's Prince.

All good ideas arrive by chance- Max Ernst
Marguerite
Posted: Monday, April 7, 2014 9:01:13 AM

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Distrust interested advice should be tattooed on foreheads of our represented not for their good but as a reminder.

As usual I love reading Trivium Discipulus posts. Today's gem: Birds of prey have two wings; the left wing & right wing.
curmudgeonine
Posted: Monday, April 7, 2014 9:11:24 AM

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Well said, Marguerite!
seemo74
Posted: Monday, April 7, 2014 11:02:29 AM

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wise saying .
omicrom
Posted: Monday, April 7, 2014 11:31:32 AM

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Marguerite wrote:
Distrust interested advice should be tattooed on foreheads of our represented not for their good but as a reminder.

As usual I love reading Trivium Discipulus posts. Today's gem: Birds of prey have two wings; the left wing & right wing.


Applause
mustafa barakat 1
Posted: Monday, April 7, 2014 11:45:28 AM

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monamagda wrote:

Listen to your elders' advice. Not because they are always right, but because they have more experience of Being Wrong.

Monamagad
You have a good point there to consider.
mustafa barakat 1
Posted: Monday, April 7, 2014 12:09:16 PM

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Haz wrote:
You should always consider the motives of your adviser. If I am advised by my parents, I know they are looking out for me and trying to assist me with all good intentions.


But not nessaserly all your parents advices, always works for you.
jcbarros
Posted: Monday, April 7, 2014 1:41:01 PM

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Distrust all the advice, interested or not.
Verbatim
Posted: Monday, April 7, 2014 2:03:47 PM
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Daemon wrote:
Distrust interested advice.

Aesop (620 BC-560 BC)


""We are so happy to advise others that occasionally we even do it in their interest.""
Jules Renard
Miriam...
Posted: Monday, April 7, 2014 9:49:14 PM

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I also distrust those who are quick to give criticism and advice--but never a helping hand. And their advise is such that helps them not have to help you.
Verbatim
Posted: Monday, April 7, 2014 11:10:49 PM
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Aesop's "The Fox Without a Tail" may have a disputable moral.

""It happened that a Fox caught its tail in a trap, and in struggling to release himself lost all of it but the stump.
At first he was ashamed to show himself among his fellow foxes. But at last he determined to put a bolder face upon his misfortune,
and summoned all the foxes to a general meeting to consider a proposal which he had to place before them.
When they had assembled together the Fox proposed that they should all do away with their tails. He pointed out how inconvenient a tail was when
they were pursued by their enemies, the dogs; how much it was in the way when they desired to sit down and hold a friendly conversation with one another.
He failed to see any advantage in carrying about such a useless encumbrance.
"That is all very well," said one of the older foxes; "but I do not think you would have recommended us to dispense with our chief ornament if you had
not happened to lose it yourself." Distrust interested advice."" End quote.

Most advice is interested, at the least interested in acceptance. But is it good for the recipient, is it in one's best interest?
And if one can’t see one’s best interest then how can one be expected to see through the interest behind the dubious advice?
kenturner1
Posted: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 8:58:48 PM

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Great quote and great posts, as usual.

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