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Daemon
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In time we hate that which we often fear.

William Shakespeare (1564-1616)
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In time we love that which we often fear. Stockholm syndrome phenomenon is so shakespearean in its logic. What would Great William write about it?
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Yes! Mathematics students sometimes hate logic!
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It's so natural to hate what we fear, and not fearing what we hate, isn't it?

I am not a genius. I am just a tremendous bundle of experience - Richard Fuller.
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Perhaps we also hate a quality in others that we fear exists in ourselves.
Gustavo de S Consoni
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What about the gay marriage?
People hate them or there are only religious convictions?
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And we fear what is different, is unfamiliar, or what we don't understand.

Most of the trouble in the world is caused by people wanting to be important. T. S. Eliot
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Are not our hates a lists of constructs from which we choose? Isn't the word itself a construct that limits our thinking?
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I notice that this forum accentuates the word fear, not time. To me, time is symbol to ignorance of the meaning of life. Time is the human product of feeling uncertain about life and death. Uncertainty creates fear for many of us.
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A wise man tries to save a scorpion from a lake, and it bites the wise man. The indignant disciple says to wise man: Forget this animal doesn't see that it doesn't want to be saved. The wise man replies: it acts like that because it is its nature, but its nature cannot change my nature that is doing the good.
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So true. I hated pools and lakes because I couldn't swim because I was afraid of water. I often hate what I can't have and some times what I abhor I become.

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Bully: In time we love that which we often fear. Stockholm syndrome phenomenon is so Shakespearean in its logic. What would Great William write about it?

I don't know Bully, I've never been kidnapped and so the logic escapes me. However my wife likes to tie me up...does that count?

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Guto: A wise man tries to save a scorpion from a lake, and it bites the wise man. The indignant disciple says to wise man: Forget this animal doesn't see that it doesn't want to be saved. The wise man replies: it acts like that because it is its nature, but its nature cannot change my nature that is doing the good.

If he was really wise he would have left the venomous predatory anthropod to nature and not been bitten.

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Flam: "Time is the human product of feeling"

Scratches head...Huh?

I was born at 11:42 on Sunday evening and didn't feel anything. Now time has run out and I don't feel like discussing it.


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Marguerite: Are not our hates a lists of constructs from which we choose? Isn't the word itself a construct that limits our thinking?

Cue up Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon in a black-lighted room, some wine and herbal enhancement and you become pure consciousness expanding beyond the matrix.


Gustavo: What about the gay marriage? People hate them.

Because they perceive that it defies the natural order and that makes them insecure about their surroundings. It is ignorant to hate another's personal choice when it has no bearing on yours. But this is the fear that lies at the very core their hatred. IMO


"Now" is the eternal present.
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Daemon wrote:
In time we hate that which we often fear.

William Shakespeare (1564-1616)



Yes, we hate what we fear. But there are also those people whom we fear. As children, we feared our parents, but time came when we hated them also. Why? Because they control us. We fear our boss, and many of us hate our boss. Some hate their spouses. Isn't that right?
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Daemon wrote:
In time we hate that which we often fear.

William Shakespeare (1564-1616)


In Act 1, Scene 3 of "Anthony and Cleopatra" the first signs of ambivalence characteristic to Shakespeare's play emerge into full view.http://shakespeare.mit.edu/cleopatra/full.html

Mine is not the first spin on the complexity of these characters, especially Cleopatra, but it will have to do for an amateur.

One of Cleopatra's maids is giving her advice as to how to maintain her hold on Anthony upon receiving news from Rome: Forbear--refrain from tempting him too far.
As Flam boyant inferred, it is possible that the emphasis should be on 'in time': That which we often fear, after some time we come to hate.

""CHARMIAN

Tempt him not so too far; I wish, forbear:
In time we hate that which we often fear.
But here comes Antony.""
Absurdicuss
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That which we often fear.

The constant spectre of fear being revisited upon our psyches, it seems, would over time, and probably a very short period at that, not only exaggerate our sense of vulnerability but would concurrently evoke wrath at being so continually threatened, to the point of justifiable, righteous hatred. And that is a most malicious and fearsome hatred.



"Now" is the eternal present.
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Are there any studies that explain the link between fear and hate? We often assume it, but is it a clear link?

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