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Daemon
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The things that happen here do not seem to mean anything; they mean something somewhere else. Somewhere else retribution will come on the real offender. Here it often seems to fall on the wrong person.

Gilbert Chesterton (1874-1936)
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Help! What's the meaning of above quote of (1874-1936) in simple English?

Next to trying and winning, the best thing is trying and failing.
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This quotation could definitely use some context.
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I would guess Mr. Chesterton is talking about the physical vs. heavenly realms - in other words: some things here on earth don't have much significance here, but they have ramifications in God's heavenly Kingdom. In searching online, I've found that the quote is from a short story included in the book "The Innocence of Father Brown," which is a compilation of several short mystery stories featuring the character "Father Brown." I have not yet read the book, but it is public domain, so I was able to get a Kindle copy for free. I will reply back once I've read the section and can provide some context.



It neither is what it isn't, nor isn't what it is. Granted, many things aren’t what they were, but will be what they are
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Chevegas wrote:
This quotation could definitely use some context.


Hear, hear.
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Daemon wrote:
The things that happen here do not seem to mean anything; they mean something somewhere else. Somewhere else retribution will come on the real offender. Here it often seems to fall on the wrong person.

Gilbert Chesterton (1874-1936)
Either things here were not meant to be understood or our minds were not given the capacity to understand these things. Also the credits go to wrong persons here.

I am not a genius. I am just a tremendous bundle of experience - Richard Fuller.
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Daemon wrote:
The things that happen here do not seem to mean anything; they mean something somewhere else. Somewhere else retribution will come on the real offender. Here it often seems to fall on the wrong person.

Gilbert Chesterton (1874-1936)


Don't forget that the right side of the tapestry include not only the Heaven but also the Hell. Forgive this poor moralizing, cause it's mostly for myself.

>> "Do you believe in doom?" asked the restless Prince Saradine suddenly.

"No," answered his guest. "I believe in Doomsday."

The prince turned from the window and stared at him in a singular manner, his face in shadow against the sunset. "What do you mean?" he asked.

"I mean that we here are on the wrong side of the tapestry," answered Father Brown. The things that...
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Butterfly effect.
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That waiting could be too long. It is far better to get results here and now.
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The Complete Father Brown Stories: [Books 1 - 7]
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Daemon wrote:
The things that happen here do not seem to mean anything; they mean something somewhere else. Somewhere else retribution will come on the real offender. Here it often seems to fall on the wrong person.

Gilbert Chesterton (1874-1936)


From "The Sins of Prince Saradine" Chapter 8, ""The prince made an inexplicable noise like an animal; in his shadowed face the eyes were shining queerly. A new and shrewd thought exploded silently in the other's mind. Was there another meaning in Saradine's blend of brilliancy and abruptness? Was the prince-- Was he perfectly sane? He was repeating, "The wrong person--the wrong person," many more times than was natural in a social exclamation.

Then Father Brown awoke tardily to a second truth. In the mirrors before him he could see the silent door standing open, and the silent Mr. Paul standing in it, with his usual pallid impassiveness.""

A story of the butler did it when he was not a butler.
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HasmukhDoshi wrote:
Help! What's the meaning of above quote of (1874-1936) in simple English?


While I don't dwell inside the head of Mr. Chesterton, this quote is reflecting on the fact that pernicious people often appear to escape their well deserved wrath in the present and this all too frequent fact seems to dull the true meaning of life from the perspective of Mr. Chesterton.

If so, I agree.

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Thanks to all.

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