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Daemon
Posted: Sunday, December 29, 2013 12:00:00 AM
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entwine

(verb) Spin, wind, or twist together.

Synonyms: interlace

Usage: He entwined his fingers with hers.
gradyone
Posted: Sunday, December 29, 2013 1:37:00 AM

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Byron thought lovers could not love each other when disentwined,
because at the moment of uncoupling they must return to loving humanity.


. . . . . My very love to thee is hate to them;

. . . . . So closely mingling here, that, disentwined,
. . . . . I cease to love thee when I love mankind:
. . . . . Yet dread not this -- the proof of all the past
. . . . . Assures the future that my love will last;


. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . from "The Corsair", 1814


Viva Geronimo
MTC
Posted: Sunday, December 29, 2013 1:56:23 AM
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Byron used the word "entwine" again in Epistle to Augusta (his sister:)

For thee, my own sweet sister, in thy heart
I know myself secure, as thou in mine;
We were and are—I am, even as thou art—
Beings who ne'er each other can resign;
It is the same, together or apart,
From life's commencement to its slow decline
We are entwined—let death come slow or fast,
The tie which bound the first endures the last!

(http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/lord_byron/poems/5977)

Every sister should be so lucky as to have a devoted brother like Byron.



gradyone
Posted: Sunday, December 29, 2013 2:06:30 AM

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MTC, I second your respect for a brother's devotion to his sister,
as well as a sister's devotion to her brother. Those relationships
are very special expressions of lifelong love and commitment.

Should we acquit The Lord Gordon of scurrilous accusations of incest?


Viva Geronimo
MTC
Posted: Sunday, December 29, 2013 5:09:37 AM
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It is possible (many things are) they entwined physically as well as spiritually, gradyone, but Byron must be presumed innocent until proven guilty. He was never charged when the evidence, if any, was fresh. How much more reason not to indict him unfairly now? Besides, he wrote some beautiful poetry!
Miriam...
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I have to disagree, with Lord Byron, that one love excludes another, as he expressed in his poem "The Corsair" 1814.

However, I think the poem "Epistle to Augusta" (his sister), posted by MTC, expresses the idea of love's entwining-- interlacing, enclosing qualities.

I have always wished for the love of a brother--or a father; and I can understand how 'entwined' very aptly describes this love, as well as in romantic love. But in romantic love, often times, there is also an element of conflict (so it seems) that brotherly and sisterly love do not have...perhaps because there is this lack of passion in it.

Here's a song I like that speaks about it: Bruce Springstein: The Ties That Bind
Christine
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My brother wrapped me with strings. I was in twine

I am carrying my heart~I am carrying my rhythm~I am carrying my prayers~But you can't kill my spirit~It's soaring and strong (Paula Cole's Me Lyrics)***We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We ARE spirtual beings having a human experience.(T.deChardin)***There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. (Albert Einstein)



rogermue
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May I disentangle you?
excaelis
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Only if you buy me dinner first...

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Christine
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excaelis wrote:
Only if you buy me dinner first...


funny

I am carrying my heart~I am carrying my rhythm~I am carrying my prayers~But you can't kill my spirit~It's soaring and strong (Paula Cole's Me Lyrics)***We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We ARE spirtual beings having a human experience.(T.deChardin)***There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. (Albert Einstein)



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What did Ents give to Meriadoc and Peregrin?


In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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