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Daemon
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There is one kind of prison where the man is behind bars, and everything that he desires is outside; and there is another kind where the things are behind the bars, and the man is outside.

Upton Sinclair (1878-1968)
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Daemon wrote:
There is one kind of prison where the man is behind bars, and everything that he desires is outside; and there is another kind where the things are behind the bars, and the man is outside.

Upton Sinclair (1878-1968)


The irony of it, the man locked outside and all the things he desires behind bars, really comes true 100 years later, one hundred thousandfold.
What a Jungle!
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Prison vs. deposit vault? I prefer later.Pray
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Daemon wrote:
There is one kind of prison where the man is behind bars, and everything that he desires is outside; and there is another kind where the things are behind the bars, and the man is outside.

Upton Sinclair (1878-1968)

Freedom from a nagging desires highest form of freedom and makes him/her monarch of its fate.
pedro
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There are, of course, different kinds of bar.

All good ideas arrive by chance- Max Ernst
MTC
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These are the hungry and destitute words of Jurgis, a jobless wage slave in Chicago of the early twentieth century in Sinclair's muckraking indictment of the Capitalist system, The Jungle. It is the system itself that throws men out of work without a social safety net, robs them of their dignity, and "bars" them from the basic necessities of life.

"At the end of about ten days Jurgis had only a few pennies left; and he had not yet found a job--not even a day's work at anything, not a chance to carry a satchel. Once again, as when he had come out of the hospital, he was bound hand and foot, and facing the grisly phantom of starvation. Raw, naked terror possessed him, a maddening passion that would never leave him, and that wore him down more quickly than the actual want of food. He was going to die of hunger! The fiend reached out its scaly arms for him--it touched him, its breath came into his face; and he would cry out for the awfulness of it, he would wake up in the night, shuddering, and bathed in perspiration, and start up and flee. He would walk, begging for work, until he was exhausted; he could not remain still--he would wander on, gaunt and haggard, gazing about him with restless eyes. Everywhere he went, from one end of the vast city to the other, there were hundreds of others like him; everywhere was the sight of plenty and the merciless hand of authority waving them away. There is one kind of prison where the man is behind bars, and everything that he desires is outside; and there is another kind where the things are behind the bars, and the man is outside."

The Jungle, Ch. 6
markm
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It is interesting to contrast this view of capitalism, as explained by MTC, to the Ayn Rand view which seems so popular now, at least among certain groups.
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Both Capitalism and Communism in their purist, most pristine states, whom idealists believed would change and elevate the world, and bring mankind to the highest degree possible for human life to unfold with dignity for all men. But, the world crumbled their cakes. Each cake became a cake for themselves. Now communists work for poverty wages and give their money to the state:They are an end to their countries means. They are worker slaves, they work not for their dreams-- nor for them selves. They are a piece of machinery, and their dreams are those of who have been stripped, used up, and disregarded. The dream of their ideology no longer excites their heart. Their government hordes their money and makes them work, they own nothing but their hoe.l
The capitalists take everything with no respect for what exists; they destroy the world with their dreams for them selves, hacking away at them with their hatchets. They must pay taxes to they' government who take all their money in order that they remain free and able to hack out more dreams.
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