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TheParser
Posted: Friday, March 08, 2013 10:33:00 AM
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I recently posted this question in the Japanese-language forum, and I received a nice reply. I was wondering if other persons might have an opinion.

*****

A: Thank you.
B: You're welcome.

*****

I recently read one sentence that claimed that the Japanese language has a phrase for "You're welcome" that implies "inherent disapproval."

The sentence did not elaborate.

1. Does it mean that B disapproves of A?
2. Does it mean that B disapproves of him-, herself for saying "You're welcome"?

*****

I recently watched a Japanese news program conducted in English for foreign viewers. Two reporters were discussing something. Then the first reporter said "Thank you" to the second reporter (a Japanese person), who did NOT reply. Did he feel, perhaps, that to say "You're welcome" would indicate a lack of humility? (This is an opinion of someone at another forum.)

Thank you for any ideas.


James
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Posted: Friday, March 08, 2013 10:42:12 AM

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You're welcome.

"Shut up, she explained." - Ring Lardner
almostfreebird
Posted: Friday, March 08, 2013 12:14:42 PM

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There are great bloggers living in Japan coming from overseas writing about Japanese culture frankly, candidly,
for example this guy could understand and solve your confusion about it gladly and willingly.

http://www.locoinyokohama.com/readers-choices-for-1st-time-or-new-visitors/









TheParser
Posted: Sunday, March 10, 2013 6:35:23 AM
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Thank you very much for the link.
almostfreebird
Posted: Sunday, March 10, 2013 7:39:27 AM

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You're welcome.


In Japanese, I would say "どういたしまして" in this context.

It's not a literal translation of "You're welcome"
but it's a common expression.

There are many ways to say depending on situation.



almostfreebird
Posted: Saturday, March 30, 2013 8:30:26 AM

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Hello,

I remembered that there was an online interview with the blogger(Loco in Yokohama):



http://www.youtube.com/Bad Communication Ep. 24




TheParser
Posted: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:03:13 AM
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Thank you so much for your kindness in giving me that link.

I am an elderly man (76 tomorrow) who still uses a dial-up computer. I am unable to access YouTube.


James
almostfreebird
Posted: Saturday, March 30, 2013 1:28:27 PM

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TheParser wrote:
Thank you so much for your kindness in giving me that link.

I am an elderly man (76 tomorrow) who still uses a dial-up computer. I am unable to access YouTube.


James






OK,

so your birthday is coming soon tomorrow,
well maybe a little early but it is March 31 already in Japan
so I send you this:





and






TheParser
Posted: Saturday, March 30, 2013 1:56:48 PM
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Thank you for the cake. And Happy Easter to you, too.

P.S. Perhaps you have heard that some schools here in the States no longer permit students to say "Happy Easter." Just as many people no longer dare say "Merry Christmas."


James
Christine
Posted: Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:13:01 AM

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TheParser wrote:
Thank you for the cake. And Happy Easter to you, too.

P.S. Perhaps you have heard that some schools here in the States no longer permit students to say "Happy Easter." Just as many people no longer dare say "Merry Christmas."


James


sad

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Romany
Posted: Monday, June 17, 2013 7:39:53 AM
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Parsar - your comments about some schools and some people not being able to use traditional greetings in America really surprised me.

A couple of months ago, on another forum, an American woman wrote a rather long plaint about this very subject. But other Americans demanded that she give actual instances and provide proof. She finally admitted that she herself had never come across this phenomenon but had read about it somewhere. It sparked quite a spirited discussion which ended up concluding that as no verifiable instances of this were to hand, it was simply the outcome of a few bored journalists trying, as usual, to whip up copy out of nothing.

So, in my mind, that whole question was neatly settled as media b.s.!

I was, therefore, rather gobsmacked to read your post. I can only echo Christine and say "Sad"! That what was thought an urban myth turns out to be true!

almo 1
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I wonder if TheParser still uses a dial-up computer.







TheParser
Posted: Monday, February 06, 2017 2:30:17 PM
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Wonder no longer.

Yes, he does.

He is totally computer illiterate.

Just typing this took a lot of effort.



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