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Daemon
Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:00:00 AM
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Silence gives the proper grace to women.

Sophocles (496 BC-406 BC)
Romany
Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:27:20 AM
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I often think that 'Daemon' posts a lot of these things purely to provoke a mini gender war.
percivalpecksniff
Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2012 5:02:05 AM

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Ah, the wisdom of Sophocles... ahem, pass my g&t...hic

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. Aristotle
Thommy
Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2012 5:20:27 AM

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Poor world where the truth triggers war!!!
uuaschbaer
Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:11:12 AM

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Romany wrote:
I often think that 'Daemon' posts a lot of these things purely to provoke a mini gender war.


Similar thoughts have struck me too at times, but I see no harm in a little cooked-up controversy to instigate a debate.

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Romany
Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2012 8:31:41 AM
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Aaaah - but its such a tired old debate!
IMcRout
Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2012 8:43:32 AM

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Si tacuisses, Daemon.

I totally take back all those times I didn't want to nap when I was younger. (Anon)
Romany
Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:05:34 AM
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You're a canny ole devil, IM!
thomasanswered
Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:15:31 AM

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Only for golden women. "Reden ist Silber, Schweigen ist Gold," as they say.
thar
Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:18:42 AM

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I do not think I can take any views on women seriously when it comes from ancient Greeks!

These were the people who separated their young boys, brought them up separated from women, having only contact (including sexual) with other boys and men - with the result that when they got married, they had to have the women with their hair cut, dressed in men's clothes and put in a dark room for the first few weeks of marital conjugal visits, because that was the only way the men could deal with these alien creatures...

...and those women had better than the rest of ancient Greece, at least they could go out in public, be literate and own property.

So, yes, better if the women are silent, because if they ever said out loud what they thought of you.....Whistle

I know, that is Sparta, completely different, but if he (or his character) can generalise wildly, then so can I! Whistle
MTC
Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:34:35 AM
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The Silence of Women



Old men, as time goes on, grow softer, sweeter,

while their wives get angrier.

You see them hauling the men across the mall

or pushing them down on chairs,

"Sit there! and don't you move!"

A lifetime of yes has left them

hissing bent as snakes.

It seems even their bones will turn

against them, once the fruitful years are gone.

Something snaps off the houselights,

and the cells go dim;

the chicken hatching back into the egg.



Oh lifetime of silence!

words scattered like a sybil's leaves.

Voices thrown into a baritone storm—

whose shrilling is a soulful wind

blown through an instrument

that cannot beat time



but must make music

any way it can.



—Liz Rosenberg, 1994

DarkMoon
Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:47:11 AM

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"A man's silence is wonderful to listen to." Whistle

Here Shhh
KAMRAMNA
Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:32:57 PM
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Wow!!! Advanced members abound ... yet all took this gem of words to mean that the female's silence is the object. Maybe not, Dark Moon might be on the right track. Its our silence as men (observers) that is the key to women's grace. My opinion.
Romany
Posted: Monday, September 17, 2012 1:47:45 AM
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Actually, not 'all' posters, Kamramna. I was referring to Daemon's penchant for posting quotes which separate genders into two different species and so provoke comment.

So much has been said over the ages that provokes debate and comment, that stimulates, depresses or delights and impresses - it just seems like a cheap sort of trick.

Also: Admin had said they were abreast of the use of the same few people's quotes and were going to try and make things a little more varied, yet the very next week the same person whose overuse had provoked complains appeared again...and here we are back in the whole "... men are from Mars..." sphere once more.

(And hey, Daemon et. al...a lot of people have said a lot of funny things too. Humour can be just as memorable as didacticism.)
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