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Daemon
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Men grow tired of sleep, love, singing, and dancing sooner than war.

Homer (900 BC-800 BC)
Tovarish
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Oh please, not more of this, "Men are from Mars & Women are from Venus" excrement.
Random1
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If "war" indicates fighting against obstacles but not against people, I think Homer is right.
You must have a purpose to endeavor, that makes life meaningful.
Richard
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Random1 wrote:
If "war" indicates fighting against obstacles but not against people, I think Homer is right.
You must have a purpose to endeavor, that makes life meaningful.



I think what Homer means by "war" is--um--war.
uuaschbaer
Posted: Saturday, June 2, 2012 9:55:11 AM

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Tovarish wrote:
Oh please, not more of this, "Men are from Mars & Women are from Venus" excrement.


Wow, you've just compared Homer to this idiot:



I hope you were wrong. Ancients did have the tendency to talk about men as if they were the only people worth talking about, not bothering to compare them to women.

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percivalpecksniff
Posted: Saturday, June 2, 2012 10:43:54 AM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd1-HM234DE

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Ms. B. Have
Posted: Saturday, June 2, 2012 11:50:40 AM

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uuaschbaer wrote:
Ancients did have the tendency to talk about men as if they were the only people worth talking about, not bothering to compare them to women.

That is not completely true when it comes to Homer:

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Homer wrote about women at a time when they were recognized only for their child bearing and for the pleasure of man.

Women occupy a place of honor in Homer's works. As we read in his epics, Homer is obviously very sensitive to their charm and beauty and confesses it with pleasure more so than any other ancient Greek writer. He is generally full of admiration for them, but at times he is just of kindly indulgence or a pity sometimes tinged with irony.

Unlike during the Golden Age of Greece three or four hundred years later, Homer writes that the woman was in no way confined to her house. Homer's women move about freely. Helen, when warned by Iris, quickly leaves her house and climbs to the city walls to witness the duel between her two husbands. Andromache, on hearing that the Trojan Army is drawing back, rushes like a mad thing to the Scaean Gate bringing with her the nurse and little Astyanax. Arete, we are told moves freely about town and everyone salutes her as though she were a goddess.

Homer shows his humanity and his humor when he says that one should remember that regardless of the many restrictions women faced in her life and marriage, still a wise and clever woman using her natural guiles could rule her husband and her house, even when he thinks he indeed is the boss.

by Christopher Xenopoulos Janus



Perception selects, and makes the world we see.
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Posted: Sunday, June 3, 2012 2:51:21 AM

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Aaaah Helen, .... so popular with the Navy!
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