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The administration now proposes the creation of an unmanned Border Entry With Mexico. Concomitant with that, blaming budget cuts, the Obama administration early next year will cut the number of National Guard troops patrolling the U.S.-Mexico border by at least half, according to a congressman who was briefed on the plan. The National Guard said an announcement will be made by the White House “in the near future,” but Rep. Duncan Hunter, a California Republican who has learned of the plans, said slashing the deployment in half is the minimum number, and he said it will mean reshuffling the remaining troops along the nearly 2,000-mile border. In California, that will mean going from 264 Guard troops down to just 14. Do you think this is a good idea, and if so - why? US proposes unmanned border entry with Mexico
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Maggie wrote:The administration now proposes the creation of an unmanned Border Entry With Mexico. Concomitant with that, blaming budget cuts, the Obama administration early next year will cut the number of National Guard troops patrolling the U.S.-Mexico border by at least half, according to a congressman who was briefed on the plan. The National Guard said an announcement will be made by the White House “in the near future,” but Rep. Duncan Hunter, a California Republican who has learned of the plans, said slashing the deployment in half is the minimum number, and he said it will mean reshuffling the remaining troops along the nearly 2,000-mile border. In California, that will mean going from 264 Guard troops down to just 14. Do you think this is a good idea, and if so - why? US proposes unmanned border entry with Mexico You have two separate things here Maggie.
The link you provided deals only with establishing a border crossing at the adobe pueblo of Boquillas del Carmen, a town of approximately 58 souls. The Administration wants to spend $2.3 million so those folks can wade across the Rio Grande as they already do, but call it legal. Seems like an example of the typical logic and reasoning ability of the current administration.
As to the other point concerning reducing security along the entire length of the border, well, that too seems like a fine example of the brilliant thinking in Washington these days.
Apparently having supplied the cartels with innumerable weapons through the Fast and Furious effort to destabilize Mexico, the Administration now appears to want to import the violence across the border into the States.
Living here along the border, and being acquainted with friends who have had family members kidnapped and held for ransom; being familiar with others who were trapped in buildings in Mexico as the thugs roamed the streets looking for Americans to kidnap, and having heard of folks who were extorted for money in the restaurants of Mexico, it seems only fair we get the same treatment here.
After all, Obama did promise to "fundamentally transform" the United States. An unsecured border would certainly aid in that transformation.
This would give impetus to Obama for his "National Security" force he said he wants to develop, which would be better trained and better equipped than the military. They might even wear distinctive shirts...probably brown.
No doubt, they would protect us from the violence of the cartels. Sounds like a plan to me (albeit, not a very good one).
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I can't believe something as simple and straight forward as the proposed unmanned border crossing can be so politicised. This is being done to allow a small, remote, Mexican village access to services on this side of the border. Please read the whole article and spare most of us the diatribe. Finally, look at your own quote and think about it.
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[quote=D.Kerrigan]I can't believe something as simple and straight forward as the proposed unmanned border crossing can be so politicised. This is being done to allow a small, remote, Mexican village access to services on this side of the border. Please read the whole article and spare most of us the diatribe. Finally, look at your own quote and think about it.[/quote
OK. Just curious. So if you're ............... let's say.... someone who wants to get into this country for terrorist purposes, why wouldn't you look at this as a GREAT opportunity? Wouldn't you not use it as an opportunity? If not, why not?
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D.Kerrigan wrote:I can't believe something as simple and straight forward as the proposed unmanned border crossing can be so politicised. This is being done to allow a small, remote, Mexican village access to services on this side of the border. Please read the whole article and spare most of us the diatribe. Finally, look at your own quote and think about it. I did read the whole article. If you believe it is a worthwhile expense spending $2.3 million to service approximately 58 Mexicans, then just say so.
Does it seem like a good expenditure to you or not?
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Ben Franklin said "Those who would trade liberty for safety deserve neither". The 2.3 million funds additional border patrol in the park. Again, please read the whole article, in addition it benefits the U.S. side also. Of course you may have missed that in the article. I wish people would not operate out of fear and bigotry but would look at all sides.
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D.Kerrigan wrote:Ben Franklin said "Those who would trade liberty for safety deserve neither". The 2.3 million funds additional border patrol in the park. Again, please read the whole article, in addition it benefits the U.S. side also. Of course you may have missed that in the article. I wish people would not operate out of fear and bigotry but would look at all sides. So now it's 'fear and bigotry' if I disagree with you on an issue? With the safety issues surrounding open access to this country, why would any 'hole in the dike' be considered a good thing? I've always been in favor of lawful ingress and egress - NOTE the word 'lawful'. And that applies to ANY ethnic group.
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We've had similar in the UK for years now. It's called the Channel Tunnel. I think it's all about resources and expense.
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D.Kerrigan wrote:Ben Franklin said "Those who would trade liberty for safety deserve neither". The 2.3 million funds additional border patrol in the park. Again, please read the whole article, in addition it benefits the U.S. side also. Of course you may have missed that in the article. I wish people would not operate out of fear and bigotry but would look at all sides. You need to get your facts straight. From the article:
...federal authorities are touting a proposal to open an unmanned port of entry as a security upgrade.
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A public comment period runs through Dec. 27 on the estimated $2.3 million project
This money is specifically for this crossing, and by the way, does anyone believe it will really cost only $2.3 million? Sure. However, the true purpose is exposed in the following line:
While CBP will run the port of entry, the National Park Service is the driver behind the project, which it hopes will help conservation efforts on both sides of the border
The crossing is just the excuse used to justify spending millions wanted by the park service.
I wouldn't mind if we were flush with cash and doing well economically, but that isn't the case here, and this is a waste of money.
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The expense appears to be for more than just the crossing. The building will also house park facilities and provide services to park visitors (i.e., U.S. tourists one assumes). It will be manned by park personnel.
The crossing will, according to the Park Service, make their conservation duties within the park easier. It will reduce roundabout driving, necessitated by the lack of a crossing. Presumably, it would thus produce a small, ongoing reduction in park costs. In the long run, this might pay back or at least offset costs of construction. The Park Service also suggests that a crossing would facilitate cross-border conservation efforts.
I note the Customs and Border Patrol also seems to support this, so the presumed experts in security seem to find this appropriate and safe.
The one local merchant they spoke with seems to believe this would be a boost for his business. Assuming the figures accurate, it seems a small positive effect on the local economy might ensue in addition to the benefits to the Mexican citizens.
While not proof-positive the project should be approved, the above suggest the issue is worth at least sober reflection and some in-depth investigation before being vetoed out-of-hand.
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