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House reaffirms 'In God We Trust' as US mottoNothing like a little unconstitutionality to piss off a significant portion of the U.S. population, and people wonder why more and more atheists are standing up, and voicing their disapproval of religious trappings in government. Quote:Never codified by law, E pluribus unum was considered a de facto motto of the United States until 1956 when the United States Congress passed an act (H.J. Resolution 396), adopting In God We Trust as the official motto E Pluribus Unum, WikipediaThe more time goes by the more I have to appreciate Richard Dawkins, as much as I think his hostile approach to theism is not a particularly good strategy, someone has to stand up to this type of insidious insertion of religious propaganda into a government that is supposedly of the people, ALL the people.
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Epiphileon wrote:House reaffirms 'In God We Trust' as US mottoNothing like a little unconstitutionality to piss off a significant portion of the U.S. population, and people wonder why more and more atheists are standing up, and voicing their disapproval of religious trappings in government. Quote:Never codified by law, E pluribus unum was considered a de facto motto of the United States until 1956 when the United States Congress passed an act (H.J. Resolution 396), adopting In God We Trust as the official motto E Pluribus Unum, WikipediaThe more time goes by the more I have to appreciate Richard Dawkins, as much as I think his hostile approach to theism is not a particularly good strategy, someone has to stand up to this type of insidious insertion of religious propaganda into a government that is supposedly of the people, ALL the people. Yes Epi. "E Pluribus Unum" is a lot more comprehensive and inclusive for all Americans (I am a US citizen). .I didn't know which one was and wasn't the moto of the US.
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I doubt this was a religious provocation by theists upon atheists.
Perhaps the "Out of many, one" theme was too complicated for the people.
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What are we supposed to trust in?
In nothing, in luck, in fatality, in you (God help us!), in me (for God's sake no!), in the collective wisdom of mankind with its abject history? Tell me you absolute idiot!
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Around the turn of the 20th century, we were in a conservative mode. Then in the 1920's we had a breakout into a very liberal mode. Then the 30's hit followed by WWII, and a conservative mode had been established again.
By 1956, we had J. Edgar Hoover and Sen. Joseph McCarthy fighting Godless Communism here in the U.S.
As it always happens, Conservatism's own excesses proved to be its undoing. In the 1960's, the social tide turned from conservatism towards liberalism. All manner of forces joined together to promote it, each for their own purpose. Regardless, their own excesses have proved to be their undoing. What we see in Washington today is the acme of that.
Now, we see the beginnings of the return to the conservative way of thinking. Rail as they might, Liberal Social Democrats will find it is a done deal. Society will swing back. Then, in "X" number of years, the conservative movement will go too far, and will again be undone by its own excesses.
Since each member of a society is unbalanced, the whole society is unbalanced. Therefore, societies continually swing between the two extremes. Keep your arms and hands inside the vehicle, and your tray tables in the upright and locked position. It's going to be a bumpy ride, folks.
Edit: I knew I had this quote somewhere, just had to find it.
"Every reform, however, necessary, will by weak minds be carried to an excess, that itself will need reforming."
~Samuel Taylor Coleridge~
1772-1834 English Poet & Critic
A great many people will think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. ~ William James ~
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"In God We Trust" first appeared on U.S. coins during the Civil War in 1864. It officially became the national motto in 1956 and began appearing on paper currency the following year.  http://youtu.be/5PdUFu318uo
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Maybe it speaks to pantheism followed by henotheism and ultimately thus far monotheism; or penultimately, depending upon ones perspective and outlook. Out of many gods, one god. The number of gods seems to be dwindling as humanity 'spiritually evolves'. Interesting that the slogan appears on currency.
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Well said, FounDit .
Hushal1, as a newbie perhaps you have not read the Forum rules.
We do not 'name call' here.
People have always been religious because the world is too scary without.
Humans need security, of which there is precious little in this life.
Some people just find it hard to believe. I myself do not 'sweat it' either way
as I figure I will find out soon enough. :-)
All Epi was saying is that there should always be 'Separation of Church and State'.
Every man has a right to his opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts. Bernard M. Baruch 1870-1965
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nowherenothere wrote:Maybe it speaks to pantheism followed by henotheism and ultimately thus far monotheism; or penultimately, depending upon ones perspective and outlook. Out of many gods, one god. The number of gods seems to be dwindling as humanity 'spiritually evolves'. Interesting that the slogan appears on currency.  Award for best relating "E Pluribus Unum" to "In God We Trust". (And the rest of the post ain't too bad, either.)
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In God We Trust... but, which God? Is He an entelechy or some kind of pie in the sky? I´m an agnostic, you know. 
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It's too bad that people in the government don't actually live by that motto.
Hypocrites.
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mailady wrote:It's too bad that people in the government don't actually live by that motto.
Hypocrites. It's too bad we have only God to trust - we can't trust the people in government!
Though lovers be lost, love shall not, and Death shall have no dominion. - Dylan Thomas
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You bet.
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