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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15387872
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The link doesn't work, I think it means not caught yet
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Looking the news right now,
NTC representatives say he's dead.
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In Russia they tell he's detained wounded in both legs
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Reuters is saying he was shot in the head and killed in Sirte.
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It's a shame to human civilization.
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Obituary - Muammar Gaddafi
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These stuff is funny to watch and read as if there is no good thing to say about him, suspicious material that is very much biased, obviously.
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Peaceward wrote:These stuff is funny to watch and read as if there is no good thing to say about him, suspicious material that is very much biased, obviously. Yes, it isn't the most 'objective' obituary. Maybe someone else will write great and wonderous things about him. Apparently he was successful in making some people very upset, and is well known for fabrication, lies, deceit, tyranny, oppression, and malfeasance. In any event, it seems he is no more, gone, nowhere and not here.
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well, I'm interested to know what you all think. I have been watching the news all night. I hope the Libyan people settle down from their celebrations and move on with the progress their people can make for their country. I would shy from celebrating the death of any human being but then I have grown up through a world with dictators and oppressors. I hope some of our Libyan friends will now feel free to join us here. I apologise in advance for this, http://youtu.be/rY0WxgSXdEE
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I hope the people of Libya are able to establish a peaceful, democratic and secular government free from tyranny and oppression. They have the opportunity now, before them, and an oppressive dictator is gone from their midst. They fought hard and bravely for this opportunity, and overcame many obstacles.
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nowherenothere wrote:
I hope the people of Libya are able to establish a peaceful, democratic and secular government free from tyranny and oppression. They have the opportunity now, before them, and an oppressive dictator is gone from their midst. They fought hard and bravely for this opportunity, and overcame many obstacles.
your signature says it all. T x.
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Thanks Toots! The signature is something I modified from a mantra a shaman gave me on a vision quest, his mantra being, 'I am Love, Love is for giving...'. It's a nice play on words, and speaks to giving and sharing, tolerance, understanding, forgiveness, and the Nature of Love. I recently read something similar, from a psychologist and english professor. She paraphrased someone else, who may have been paraphrasing Emerson. Her statement is something to the effect, 'Love is a verb, live lovingly, give love, and the noun 'Love' fills your life...'. Cause and effect, if you will. If everyone practiced such in their daily lives, we wouldn't have wars, nor would we need thousands upon thousands of laws. tootsie wrote:nowherenothere wrote:
I hope the people of Libya are able to establish a peaceful, democratic and secular government free from tyranny and oppression. They have the opportunity now, before them, and an oppressive dictator is gone from their midst. They fought hard and bravely for this opportunity, and overcame many obstacles.
your signature says it all. T x.
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While trying to act so composed and calm on the outside, death awaits.
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I agree with Tootsie, nowherenothere.
Another expression I love is "Do what you will, and harm none."
I believe it may be Wiccan, but not being a Wiccan myself, I am not sure.
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shelf wrote:I agree with Tootsie, nowherenothere.
Another expression I love is "Do what you will, and harm none."
I believe it may be Wiccan, but not being a Wiccan myself, I am not sure.
Thanks,
Shelf It is called the Wiccan Rede.
Please thank wikipedia for the above information.
peace out, >^,,^<
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nowherenothere wrote:
I hope the people of Libya are able to establish a peaceful, democratic and secular government free from tyranny and oppression. They have the opportunity now, before them, and an oppressive dictator is gone from their midst. They fought hard and bravely for this opportunity, and overcame many obstacles.
There was concerted effort to get Gadaffi out which might bode well in the selection of a new stable government. Several ominous factors might impede this. One is the manner in which Gadaffi was dispatched, however understandable after years of oppression. Related to this is the manner that a new government will treat those who fought on Gadaffi's side. A clean slate amnesty might not appeal to many who fought against them but any brutal treatment might well break the country into rival factions before a new government is structured. Also there should also be no intrusion from outside interests as to what form the new government should take: In particular, grant giving nations wishing to aid the stricken country should beware of setting down its own conditions as to the shape of the new administration. We can learn from recent past on this. Still, I wish them well as, I am sure, do we all.
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We had one of the bloodiest evil dictator ever lived (Soeharto), but he didn't have the same fate as Saddam or Khadaffi.
Lesson for other dictators, be a good friend of the US and co, you'll be alright. Just ask the Saudi's.
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Lessons for despots, tyrants, dictators and control freaks in general...karma will catch up and get ya in the end, if not sooner when the people one subjugated find some semblance of freedom. Soeharto was indeed a brutal and corrupt man. But he's no longer in power, is he? Blooper wrote:We had one of the bloodiest evil dictator ever lived (Soeharto), but he didn't have the same fate as Saddam or Khadaffi.
Lesson for other dictators, be a good friend of the US and co, you'll be alright. Just ask the Saudi's.
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nowherenothere wrote:Lessons for despots, tyrants, dictators and control freaks in general...karma will catch up and get ya in the end, if not sooner when the people one subjugated find some semblance of freedom. Soeharto was indeed a brutal and corrupt man. But he's no longer in power, is he? Blooper wrote:We had one of the bloodiest evil dictator ever lived (Soeharto), but he didn't have the same fate as Saddam or Khadaffi.
Lesson for other dictators, be a good friend of the US and co, you'll be alright. Just ask the Saudi's.
The Saudi's are still there. Right? Be consistent with the remark if you want to say something.
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Isn't Syrian uprising bigger than Libian one? How many people reported been killed so far? Where NATO is to protect civilians? One got to be naive to swallow this marmelade. C'mon folks. With the due respect of all your knowledges, I call this singlemined at best. IT IS ALL ABOUT OIL FOLKS.
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Margarit Bamllari wrote:Isn't Syrian uprising bigger than Libian one? How many people reported been killed so far? Where NATO is to protect civilians? One got to be naive to swallow this marmelade. C'mon folks. With the due respect of all your knowledges, I call this singlemined at best. IT IS ALL ABOUT OIL FOLKS. Russia and China have vetoed the UN Security Council's resolutions for international reaction such as in Libya's case. Guess who's arming the Syrian Army and Security troops?
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i wanted to be clever and RESPOND, but i think it would be cleverer not to. This is, after all, a LANGUAGE forum. Go and have your beef somewhere else MB.
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Jyrkkä Jätkä wrote:Margarit Bamllari wrote:Isn't Syrian uprising bigger than Libian one? How many people reported been killed so far? Where NATO is to protect civilians? One got to be naive to swallow this marmelade. C'mon folks. With the due respect of all your knowledges, I call this singlemined at best. IT IS ALL ABOUT OIL FOLKS. Russia and China have vetoed the UN Security Council's resolutions for international reaction such as in Libya's case. Guess who's arming the Syrian Army and Security troops? J.J.
This is the world of big interests and capital. Syrian case has an awful lot more implications than Libya. As for the armaments, Russia has always been Syria's main supplier. Besides, arms trade is a big business and today it is a matter of statistics unless it is made illegally. You remember who supplied Argentina with missiles during the conflict over Falkland Islands with UK. Who supplied Gadaffi with weapons after all?
Only months ago the west was not so hostile with Gadaffi regime, as it was before the sanctions were eased.
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tootsie wrote:i wanted to be clever and RESPOND, but i think it would be cleverer not to. This is, after all, a LANGUAGE forum. Go and have your beef somewhere else MB.
toot,
This is about getting emotional rather than taking it personally. At times I am naive too and be the ONE. So it could be anyone.
BTW I am vegetarian.
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Iranian news site on Hezbollah and Syria: http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9007271468Yet, in an earlier meeting with Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmad Davutoglu, Assad threatened the western countries that if Syria comes under a NATO attack, it would set fire on the Middle-East, specially Israel.
"If a crazy measure is taken against Damascus, I will need not more than 6 hours to transfer hundreds of rockets and missiles to the Golan Heights to fire them at Tel Aviv," Assad said after Davutoglu conveyed a US warning to him.
He also reiterated that Damascus will also call on Hezbollah in Lebanon to launch such an intensive rocket and missile attack on Israel that the Israeli spy agencies could never imagine.
"All these events will happen in three hours, but in the second three hours, Iran will attack the US warships in the Persian Gulf and the US and European interests will be targeted simultaneously," Assad said.
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Yep, it is. One may be quite surprised by the information and misinformation presented and gathered by the people who read and post here in these forum pages. firzakhan wrote:wow these are very nice info sharing with us in this forum
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Jyrkkä Jätkä wrote:Iranian news site on Hezbollah and Syria: http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9007271468Yet, in an earlier meeting with Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmad Davutoglu, Assad threatened the western countries that if Syria comes under a NATO attack, it would set fire on the Middle-East, specially Israel.
"If a crazy measure is taken against Damascus, I will need not more than 6 hours to transfer hundreds of rockets and missiles to the Golan Heights to fire them at Tel Aviv," Assad said after Davutoglu conveyed a US warning to him.
He also reiterated that Damascus will also call on Hezbollah in Lebanon to launch such an intensive rocket and missile attack on Israel that the Israeli spy agencies could never imagine.
"All these events will happen in three hours, but in the second three hours, Iran will attack the US warships in the Persian Gulf and the US and European interests will be targeted simultaneously," Assad said. Not pleasant a pleasant prospect by any means, but... meh. Transferring hundreds of missiles to the border of Israel in six hours is what the U.S. Army and Air Force calls a "target acquisition opportunity." Vehicles are easier to spot than hidden bunkers. Launch sites more quickly identified than weapons caches. An actual shooting war is the kind of thing the U.S. military is designed for, and the one thing it really does well. (It's the counter insurgency/police action/nation building that occurs AFTER the offensive strikes that are problematic.) Sure, Syria and Iron would do some serious damage during the initial "surprise" attack--just as is always the case for surprise attacks--but whatever military units they extend will quickly get cut off, rolled up and then destroyed in situ. It's what would happen in the next six days, not the first six hours that is important. What these guys are really talking about is launching a sort of national suicide attack. Nothing would end Syria or Iran as national entities quicker than launching an all out offensive on Israel or U.S. forces in the Gulf. Lots of people would die, of course, and nobody should want that, but comments like these are really a sign of desperation and stupidity than legit threats. It's ALWAYS the case that an offensive would be devastating. That's what an offensive is. But on the whole, these comments should be taken as the equivalent of Saddam Hussein's "Mother of All Battles" comment. Really he's just saying that if he's going to go down he'll try to take as many people as he can with him. How effectively he'll be able to do that is another matter....
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Anyone willing to look at the international news about Syria, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15588250or official Syrian news (SANA - Syrian Arab News Agency)? http://sana.sy/index_eng.html
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