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Levantine
Posted: Sunday, October 16, 2011 4:53:12 PM
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NATO's war allies are reportedly entering houses and "butcher a whole family and then they leave the house. Then, they are killing the wounded, and killing the prisoners" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_SyNevmzmA&feature=share

Many reports are similar to this, the latest one. Perhaps most notably, Former U.S. Congressman Walter Fauntroy, who recently returned from a mission to Libya,said that he watched French and Danish troops storm small villages late at night beheading, maiming and killing rebels and loyalists to show them who was in control. http://www.afro.com/sections/news/national/story.htm?storyid=72369

Note very weak statement from UN: "room for abuse" under NTC: http://yhoo.it/p2Q37T

But, how did this start?

The war in Libya is "built on fraud. The United Nations Security Council passed two resolutions against Libya on the basis of unproven claims, specifically that Colonel Muammar Qaddafi was killing his own people in Benghazi and Libya."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26848

( Mind, the author of the above wrote negatively of the Libyan govt before he visited the country:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=23375 )

From a European businessman/traveller of my acquaintance:
"This is a collection of my own memories and from people that spoke to me from Libya. When I first arrived in Benghazi,it was really beautiful, the people were well off and everything was free, and services were all good. I have lived in Europe, so I could tell that life was good and the people happy. There was a financial boom in the Benghazi area and in the east of Libya in general, creating a sudden increase in the population of Egyptian migrants. Companies were hiring foreign labor without restrictions, mainly form Egypt. Also some migrants from Afghanistan-Uzbekistan-Tajikistan. It was these same laborers that later became the foot-soldiers of the so-called revolution.The companies hiring them turned out to be very same Government officials: Mustafa abd Jalil and Mahmoud Jabreel and much later help came from a General named Abd Fatah Younis, that is how it all happened in the Benghazi"revolution." Entire neighborhoods were killed and then the "foreign laborers" would move into those now empty neighborhoods in Benghazi, and it turned out that many of the laborers were well trained in fighting and had intended from the beginning to fight. Using their large force of foreign laborers and small groups of tribal loyalists and with help from general Abd Fatah Younis they overpowered the majority of the people,that clearly were with Muamar Gaddafi. Many [...] that fled the war confirmed that those killing the people were in fact Egyptians as they could easily guess by their accent and of course they would know best and its quite easy to distinguish a Libyan from an Egyptian."
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1229555434

The credibility of the United Nations must be questioned as well as the credibility of many humanitarian and human rights organizations that have virtually pushed for a war. At best the U.N. Security Council is an irresponsible body, but it has clearly acted outside of due legal process.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26848

And this was just a part of a decade-long military expansionism, which has now resulted in the US military fighting in seven countries. While US troops are involved in occupying Iraq and Afghanistan, waging covert war on Pakistan, conducting drone attacks on Yemen and Somalia, bombarding Libya, and positioning for a wider confrontation with Iran and Syria, Nobel Peace Prize Laureate President Obama has now quietly, without much fanfare, sent 100 US troops to help Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni crush rebels threatening his 25 year dictatorship.
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/10/obama-sends-us-troops-to-uganda.html

But, let me repeat: how did the world come to this?

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Jyrkkä Jätkä
Posted: Sunday, October 16, 2011 5:05:22 PM

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Could you give us some more reliable sources to your claims?


I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
jmacann
Posted: Sunday, October 16, 2011 5:26:01 PM
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Yes, the point is who you may trust -reliability proves itself an asset to credibility, as the latter can easily be strained by squandering.
HWNN1961
Posted: Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:51:21 PM

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Wow, we are honored....I never knew that M.G. had an account on the Forum! But, your sources are laughable.

The thugs are hiding in Sirte. Not in Tripoli. One day soon, M.G. and his illustrious sons will swing from the scaffold. As they deserve.

Nice try though.

"Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless, and do no wrong". (Knight's Oath, Kingdom of Heaven)
nowherenothere
Posted: Sunday, October 16, 2011 11:40:09 PM

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I think it would be more credible if Al Jazeera or some other reputable, objective and professional journalists from around the globe provided such information.


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kitten
Posted: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:02:02 AM

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Interesting. Think


>^,,^<


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abcxyz
Posted: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:01:17 PM

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Good 4th post, Levantine Applause Applause

BTW, there are already 2 other threads on the situation in Libya.

Massacre In Libya

Libya

In this world there is no literate population that is poor and no illiterate population that is other than poor. - J.K.Galbraith
Jyrkkä Jätkä
Posted: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 6:03:37 PM

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abcxyz wrote:
Good 4th post, Levantine Applause Applause


ABC,
can you enlighten us,
what exactly was good in Levantine's post?


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