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Reiko07
Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2019 12:12:10 AM

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(1) Her snide remarks at the party were a faux pas.

(2) Her telling snide remarks at the party was a faux pas.

Which is correct?

My English is probably at CEFR A1 or A2 level.
thar
Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2019 12:41:16 AM

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You don't 'tell remarks' so that is wrong.



Also, the combination of vocabulary doesn't work.

1 would be OK if some of the vobabulary were changed.

'snide' means nasty, mean. It is a deliberate attempt to embarrasss or hurt someone.

A faux pas (literally a 'wrong step') is a mistake, saying something embarassing unintentionally.


Quote:
an embarrassing or tactless act or remark in a social situation.
"‘I was suddenly sick in the back of their car’—it was years before he could confess his faux pas to them"
synonyms: gaffe, blunder, mistake;



You are not snide by mistake - it is a deliberate choice to say something insulting.

Quote:
snide
adjective
1.
derogatory or mocking in an indirect way.
"snide remarks about my mother"
synonyms: disparaging, derogatory, deprecating, deprecatory, denigratory, insulting, vituperative, disapproving, contemptuous;

Reiko07
Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2019 1:00:57 AM

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Thank you very much, thar.

Sorry, the use of "telling" is my careless mistake.

As for "snide", I should have been more careful with logic. d'oh!

What about the following?

(3) Her tactless remarks at the party were a faux pas.

(4) Her making tactless remarks at the party was a faux pas.

(5) Her giving tactless remarks at the party was a faux pas.

My English is probably at CEFR A1 or A2 level.
sureshot
Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2019 1:25:04 AM
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Reiko07 wrote:
Thank you very much, thar.

Sorry, the use of "telling" is my careless mistake.

As for "snide", I should have been more careful with logic. d'oh!

What about the following?

(3) Her tactless remarks at the party were a faux pas.

(4) Her making tactless remarks at the party was a faux pas.

(5) Her giving tactless remarks at the party was a faux pas.


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(3) Her tactless remarks at the party were a faux pas.
Reiko07
Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2019 2:54:15 AM

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Thank you very much, sureshot.

My English is probably at CEFR A1 or A2 level.
thar
Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2019 3:04:06 AM

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3 and 4 are fine.

You make remarks, but you don't 'give' remarks.


So there are two ways of expressing it that are both natural.

1 her remarks
- the result
(obviously, if they were her remarks then she made them, so that is implicit)

2 her making .... remarks
- the action
she made tactless remarks, and that was a faux pas.


note the function of 'her' is different in each case - in 1 it is a simple possessive, in 2 it is the subject of the verb participle.
Reiko07
Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2019 5:44:52 AM

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thar wrote:

You make remarks, but you don't 'give' remarks.


Thank you very much, thar. I thought "give" was OK in American English.

verb + remark
deliver (esp. AmE), give (esp. AmE), make, offer (esp. AmE), pass, utter
The Pope delivered his ~s before boarding his plane.
I gave my ~s at the benefit.
(Oxford Collocation Dictionary)

My English is probably at CEFR A1 or A2 level.
thar
Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2019 10:09:36 AM

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The Papal one is fine - that is 'to deliver a speech' and they are calling that 'remarks' but it is a rare usage of remarks and only works in a very formal setting for BrE, like the Pope giving a speech, where every word is analysed and taken seriously!

The second one - I don't know, it sounds odd to me but maybe in AmE it is how you say it.
FounDit
Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2019 11:46:57 AM

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thar wrote:
The Papal one is fine - that is 'to deliver a speech' and they are calling that 'remarks' but it is a rare usage of remarks and only works in a very formal setting for BrE, like the Pope giving a speech, where every word is analysed and taken seriously!

The second one - I don't know, it sounds odd to me but maybe in AmE it is how you say it.


Yes, "delivered" and "gave" are both used commonly in AmE.

We should look to the past to learn from it, not destroy our future because of it — FounDit
Reiko07
Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2019 9:39:55 PM

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Thank you very much, thar and FounDit.

My English is probably at CEFR A1 or A2 level.
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