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azz
Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 3:21:48 AM
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a. He called my uncle by his first name, which I have never done before.

Is the above sentence grammatically correct?

Many thanks.
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It would make more sense without the 'before'.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 6:32:45 AM
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Agreed. The natural reaction on hearing the sentence as it stands would be "Before what?"
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Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 7:06:00 AM

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Even though "before" is not needed, and some would say would lead to a silly question, you will hear it included often. It's how many people speak.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 10:31:29 AM
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BobShilling wrote:
It would make more sense without the 'before'.



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I agree.

The sentence is "He called my uncle by his first name, which I have never done before".

The adverb "before" means "at an earlier time". It does not contribute to the intended sense. The speaker wants to say that he has never heard anyone doing so till now.This assertion includes the present time. So, the intended sense is ""He called my uncle by his first name, which I have never done so far (= till now)"

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"He called my uncle by his first name, which I have never done before".

To me, the action is unclear as to what it is "I have never done before." What he has "never done before" could mean hearing someone call his uncle by his first name, or actually calling his uncle by his first name.

I think it would be much clearer to say
"He called my uncle by his firt name, which I have never heard before." or
"He called my uncle by his firt name, which is something I have never done before."
BobShilling
Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 1:25:11 PM
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foolofgrace wrote:
"He called my uncle by his first name, which I have never done before".

To me, the action is unclear as to what it is "I have never done before." What he has "never done before" could mean hearing someone call his uncle by his first name,


No. 'Have never done' can refer back only to 'called my uncle by his first name'


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I think it would be much clearer to say
"He called my uncle by his first name, which I have never heard before."


That's fine , though it conveys a different message from the original.

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or
"He called my uncle by his first name, which is something I have never done before."


As with the original, this would be better without the 'before'.
navi
Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 4:10:58 PM
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Thank you all very much,

"He called my uncle by his first name, which I have never heard before."

That's interesting. I think in that sentence 'which I have never heard before' modifies 'his first name'. I also think that it has to be 'which I had never heard before'....

Gratefully,
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