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Atatürk
Posted: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 11:57:34 AM

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You should have finished the paper by the end of the month.

Is the above correct English talking about the future?

Ite, maledicti, in ignem aeternum!
sureshot
Posted: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 12:46:00 PM
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Atatürk wrote:
You should have finished the paper by the end of the month.

Is the above correct English talking about the future?

_______________

The given sentence does not pertain to the future. Say:

- You should finish the paper by the end of the (= this) month.

A general tip is that the pattern "modal + have + past participle" pertains to a past time reference.
Atatürk
Posted: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 12:55:19 PM

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Thank you.

What about this?

You will have to have finished the paper by the end of the month.

Ite, maledicti, in ignem aeternum!
BobShilling
Posted: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 3:09:38 PM
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Atatürk wrote:
You should have finished the paper by the end of the month.

Is the above correct English talking about the future?

Yes. There is an expectation that 'you' will have finished the paper by that time.
BobShilling
Posted: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 3:11:33 PM
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sureshot wrote:


A general tip is that the pattern "modal + have + past participle" pertains to a past time reference.

I shall/will/may/might/could have finished can all refer to the future.
BobShilling
Posted: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 3:11:34 PM
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sureshot wrote:


A general tip is that the pattern "modal + have + past participle" pertains to a past time reference.

I shall/will/may/might/could have finished can all refer to the future.
BobShilling
Posted: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 3:13:16 PM
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Atatürk wrote:


You will have to have finished the paper by the end of the month.


It's grammatically correct.
Atatürk
Posted: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 3:26:47 PM

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Thank you ever so much, Bob.

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