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jacobusmaximus
Posted: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:37:45 AM

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What is the difference between knowing something and believing by faith? Is one more valid than the other?
almostfreebird
Posted: Friday, September 23, 2011 11:16:01 AM

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Wanderer
Posted: Friday, September 23, 2011 11:41:06 AM

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Well, if by knowing you mean that you have evidences of a thing then faith is impossible, because faith is the belief in something you can't see. If, theist were to ultimately prove that there is a God then there would be no more faith. Just as science can only but forth theories because they get proved wrong sometimes. I'm thinking of the article that says they have found a particle that moves faster than the speed of light. Since Einstein we have thought and accepted that nothing moved faster than light and now that may not be true.
jacobusmaximus
Posted: Friday, September 23, 2011 1:50:36 PM

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Wanderer wrote:
Well, if by knowing you mean that you have evidences of a thing then faith is impossible, because faith is the belief in something you can't see. If, theist were to ultimately prove that there is a God then there would be no more faith. Just as science can only but forth theories because they get proved wrong sometimes. I'm thinking of the article that says they have found a particle that moves faster than the speed of light. Since Einstein we have thought and accepted that nothing moved faster than light and now that may not be true.


But if you declare that something is your God - a golden calf or whatever - then there is a God. That cannot be denied. So if I say that Jesus - the real, living, historical Jesus - is my God that is it settled. It is what he did and still can do that I must believe in by faith. I cannot know what he can do - I can only believe in it all by faith until I know different. So isn't that just like science?

I well remember, many years ago, being told by a science nerd that nothing could move faster than the speed of light. "Of course", he added, "that is our conclusion in the light of our present knowledge." So did he not know that nothing could move faster than the speed of light, Did he simply believe by faith that it was so?
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