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FounDit
Posted: Monday, August 5, 2019 7:56:54 PM

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BobShilling wrote:
I see that in the 36 hours since I last asked FD for evidence of the claims he made in this thread, FD has found time to trawl the internet for news of mockable behaviour by some Democratic Socialists and the apparent hypocrisy of Bernie Sanders.

It seems he has given up on any attempt to find evidence to support his claims here.


I provided you plenty of evidence. There is nothing I can do about it if you refuse to look at, or listen to it...*shrug*


We should look to the past to learn from it, not destroy our future because of it — FounDit
Romany
Posted: Monday, August 5, 2019 8:15:23 PM
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Bob -

during the past 8 years FD has never once provided factual evidence for any of the propaganda he endorses. Why on earth did it even cross your mind that he would start now? On the couple of occasions he has linked to anything it's been to the far right propaganda sites from whence his doctrine originates, anyway.

As any other sources - no matter where in the world they are based - apparently are Democrat-riddled;(he has proved incapable of realising that The Democrat & Republican Parties exist only in America), or Socialist or Commie; Fake; or full of scientists or Academics who are all involved in gigantic, global conspiracies; or Far Left; or, somewhat disconcertingly, cause him to throw himself about the floor in maniacal & uncontrollable mirth; he has soundly and successfully insulated himself from any idea, theory, or opinion which doesn't match his own.
BobShilling
Posted: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 12:49:33 AM
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Romany wrote:
Why on earth did it even cross your mind that he would start now?


I was sure that he not only would not, but could not, offer any evidence for such claims.

However, too many people believe this type of garbage already; I don't want it to go completely unchallenged. There are probably some people who might think "He's said that, and nobody has disagreed, so it must be true".
Hope123
Posted: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 1:14:25 AM

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There are two items on his list I would agree Democrats hate - Donald Trump and his supporters. The rest is all what Trump has led his supporters to believe, taken right from his playbook, his most recent claim being that four coloured congresswomen hate the US. Not true of course. They love it enough to try to make it better.

Even though I'm not American I lived there almost half of 25 years and have begun to feel that recently the Canadian media has no other news except that of the US.


I did the quiz as an Independent on this website about exactly how much democrats and republicans really know about each other. I had a perception gap of 19% and 10% respectively, right on mark for an Independent.

Democrats and Republicans might get an eye opener if they took the short test.


https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2019/6/24/what-democrats-and-republicans-get-wrong-about-each-other


The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes/ears. It was their final, most essential command Orwell 1984
BobShilling
Posted: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 5:16:19 AM
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Hope123 wrote:
There are two items on his list I would agree Democrats hate - Donald Trump and his supporters.


I doubt it, though I am sure that most hate/despise/whatever the things these people say and suggest.
Hope123
Posted: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 11:31:26 AM

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BobShilling wrote:
Hope123 wrote:
There are two items on his list I would agree Democrats hate - Donald Trump and his supporters.


I doubt it, though I am sure that most hate/despise/whatever the things these people say and suggest.


That is what we are supposed to do - hate what they do but love the doer. Reality of the human mind does not work that way. And I'm not sure exactly what is meant by hate these days. We hate broccoli, and we love chocolate. The words are over used and the meanings diluted.

The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes/ears. It was their final, most essential command Orwell 1984
FounDit
Posted: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 3:25:43 PM

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BobShilling wrote:
I see that in the 36 hours since I last asked FD for evidence of the claims he made in this thread, FD has found time to trawl the internet for news of mockable behaviour by some Democratic Socialists and the apparent hypocrisy of Bernie Sanders.

It seems he has given up on any attempt to find evidence to support his claims here.


You asked for evidence, and I provided you sources for what I asserted. I see you continue to duck the opportunity I gave you to dispute what I said about the sources. But that's ok. I knew that would happen. You can't deny what I said, so you attack me instead. Typical. But I don't mind...Dancing


We should look to the past to learn from it, not destroy our future because of it — FounDit
BobShilling
Posted: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 5:15:20 PM
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FounDit wrote:
You asked for evidence, and I provided you sources for what I asserted.


Giving a list of names* is not providing evidence.

I have read/viewed enough to know that those names I recognise on your list have (frequently) expressed their opposition to the Trump and his policies.

However, I have searched hard (and also watched the Democrat debates in which you suggested I'd hear evidence to support your claims) and could find no evidence at all that they hate the Founding, the Constitution, the American culture, the language, the dominate ethnic group, the border, those who defend the border, and that[...] the very existence of the country annoys them, as you claimed..

There are two possibilities here:

1. I am an incompetent searcher.
2. There is no evidence, and that your claims are completely unfounded.

Now, all you have to do is produce a couple of bits of hard evidence that some of these bodies and individuals you named have claimed these things and I will publicly in these forums (a) admit that you are right and (b) express my negative opinions about such hatred.

If you do not produce such evidence, it will simply demonstrate, yet again, that many of the claims you make are full of sound and fury, signifying nothing and that you are, to put it very mildly, economical with the truth.



*CNN, MSNBC, PBS, The View, Slate, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Morning Joe, Jerry Nadler, Nance Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, AOC, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, Ayanna Pressley, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Swalwell, James Clapper, John Brennen, James Comey, … just about everyone in Washington, D. C. who is a member of the Democrat Party, a whole lot of Republicans too, and far too many more to mention here.
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