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Joe Kim
Posted: Saturday, December 8, 2018 12:14:10 PM

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1. Make a kill
2. Make a killing

What is the meaning of the first?

RuthP
Posted: Saturday, December 8, 2018 12:51:47 PM

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Joe Kim wrote:
1. Make a kill
2. Make a killing

What is the meaning of the first?

The first is literal: to kill something. It is generally used in the context of a predatory animal managing to kill its prey. Predators have more hunts on which they fail than those which succeed, so to finally make a kill is important.
Joe Kim
Posted: Saturday, December 8, 2018 7:18:40 PM

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Thank you.

Then how killing could have created such meaning as it stands? What difference between simple and gerund form is that killing can mean this?
FounDit
Posted: Monday, December 10, 2018 11:48:49 AM

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Joe Kim wrote:
Thank you.

Then how killing could have created such meaning as it stands? What difference between simple and gerund form is that killing can mean this?


As RuthP says, when a predator makes a kill it is an important thing for it. It is successful, but only that one time.

By extension, killing over a period of time bring much more success, so to "make a killing" on Wall Street, or in business, means having many successes over a period of time. So we say someone "made a killing" to indicate many successes.


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Joe Kim
Posted: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 12:39:23 PM

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Great. Thank you FounDit.

Here's another question based on your theory,
1. It needs a good wash.(for clothing)
2. It needs a good washing

I have asked about this question a long time ago, but it was too complicated combined with some other meanings.

Anyway, here you would probably say a wash, one time. then why do people use the second? Or do they use the both?
FounDit
Posted: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 5:53:43 PM

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Joe Kim wrote:
Great. Thank you FounDit.

Here's another question based on your theory,
1. It needs a good wash.(for clothing)
2. It needs a good washing

I have asked about this question a long time ago, but it was too complicated combined with some other meanings.

Anyway, here you would probably say a wash, one time. then why do people use the second? Or do they use the both?


Both might be used. Since "it" is only one item of clothing, a single wash, or washing, will help clean it. And though it will be washed multiple times over its lifespan, a single wash/washing cleans it each time.

It isn't like the predator that kills, because the predator can only kill its prey one time. To make "a killing" however, means someone was successful many times at the same thing.

A wash or a washing can be done many times with the same item, so both can be used.


We should look to the past to learn from it, not destroy our future because of it — FounDit
Joe Kim
Posted: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 11:30:46 PM

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Thank you.
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