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Ivan Fadeev
Posted: Saturday, December 8, 2018 7:04:56 AM

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Do you agree?

1 This is Maria's sister. CORRECT
This is the sister of Maria/Maria’s. WRONG
This is the sister of Maria I have worked with. CORRECT
This is the sister of Maria’s I have worked with. WRONG

2 This is a sister of Maria's. CORRECT
This is a sister of Maria. WRONG
This is a sister of Maria's I have worked with. WRONG
This is a sister of Maria I have worked with.CORRECT



3 This is the cover of the book. CORRECT
This is the cover of the book’s WRONG
This is the book’s cover. CORRECT

4 This is a cover of the book. CORRECT
This is a cover of the book’s. WRONG
thar
Posted: Saturday, December 8, 2018 9:14:25 AM

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A simple guide.

Think of if the pronouns sound OK

This is a friend of Maria.
You know that is right, so...

This is a friend of her.
No, that is wrong,
This is a friend of hers.
Yes, correct.
So, by following that pattern.
This is a friend of Maria's
fine

But
this is a cover of the book
yes
This is a cover of it.
Yes (with context)
So, that is fine - no s in that pattern.
This is a cover of its
No, wrong.

Because you have another pattern - attributive nouns
This is a book cover.


1 This is Maria's sister.
This is a sister of Maria’s.
This is the sister of Maria, who(m) I have worked with. I have worked with Maria.
This is the sister of Maria that I have worked with. I have worked with this sister, not another one.


This is the sister of Maria’s I have worked with.

Ivan Fadeev
Posted: Saturday, December 8, 2018 2:33:24 PM

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Thank you THAR!

Elaborate on this one.

This is a sister of Maria's that I have worked with.

or

This is a sister of Maria that I have worked with.
thar
Posted: Saturday, December 8, 2018 3:28:43 PM

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Ivan Fadeev wrote:
Thank you THAR!

Elaborate on this one.

This is a sister of Maria's that I have worked with.
Hmmm. Not great, but OK. Maria has several sisters. This is one that I have worked with.

or

This is a sister of Maria that I have worked with.
No, that doesn't feel natural, but if you stressed it right it could mean the same.
Really you have to have some justification for using 'a sister of Maria' when you mean 'Maria's sister'.

Depending on what you want to say:
the sister
This is Maria's sister. I have worked with her before.
This is one of Maria's sisters.
Maria:
This girl is the sister of Marian, whom I've worked with before.
This is one of Maria's sisters. I have worked with Maria before.

it is not that natural to try to crunch everything together with possessive and then a clause. TMI. Whistle

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