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A/an/the/no article before access and gp records Options
Jigneshbharati
Posted: Saturday, November 10, 2018 2:00:37 PM
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I did medicine reconciliation for a patient from HMP (prison) Leeds. I couldn't access his GP records through our system. The police officer with the patient connected me to the relevant department there.
Please explain the use of articles here
I asked the other person over the phone at HMP
Do you have access to the (patient's) GP records?
Which articles should I use before "access" and " gp records"?
thar
Posted: Saturday, November 10, 2018 2:41:59 PM

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Access is an uncountable noun - a concept.
You have access to one thing, or many things. Or you don't have access to one thing or many things.
That is never plural - you never say 'accesses' as a noun.

Every person has medical records. Here you are calling them GP records.
These records are plural, so you can use an article:
the GP records of the patient
or you can use a possessive pronoun
his GP records

Or if you are not specifying any records in particular, you don't need an article.
Records are private.


If you are using a possessive 's, then the article belongs to the first noun.

The patient.
A patient.
The patient's GP records.
A patient's GP records.

It is like the possessive pronoun
His GP records.

The article or possessive pronoun refers to the noun (the patient) and not to their records.

These are two different structures, although with context the meaning is the same.
The GP records (of the patient)
The + records, plural, specific to that patient. Attributive noun 'GP' before the noun.

The patient's GP records
The + patient, singular, specific to the patient you are asking about.

Or, if you wanted to talk about the records of more than one patient, then plural patients:
The patients' GP records

Unless you actually want to access the records held by his GP. That would be
His GP's records (of his medical history).

The last noun in a compound is the 'real' noun, but not when there is a possessive noun. Then that is the 'real' noun, and it possesses the other noun after it.
Jigneshbharati
Posted: Saturday, November 10, 2018 2:51:08 PM
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Thank you so much thar!
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