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An Open Letter to the Admin Options
BobShilling
Posted: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 11:32:11 AM
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Location: Beroun, Stredocesky, Czech Republic
Absinthius wrote:
I'm kinda falling for Lotje a little more everytime I see one of those dissecting posts! Very enjoyable to read!

I am not sure that 'falling for' is particularly appropriate these days, but I agree that Lotje is superb at nosing out and destroying BS - and they manage to remain cool, calm and collected in doing so.


"How different, how very different, from the home life of some of our own dear members" (including me).
A cooperator
Posted: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 6:07:03 PM

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Joined: 10/27/2011
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Location: Ḩāḑírah, Hadramawt, Yemen
Hi Everyone!
First of all, I don't think that anything on this short life deserves to make someone insult others. Everything can be fixed as long as we are still alive. Whoever doesn't admit their faults will still always be wrong. I don't know why some people thrive on saying hurtful words to others. There is a saying going "say good or to be silent".

Secondly, I am supporting Helenej's escalated words.
Some offenders even don't care if they are going to be banned or not. That is, they could repeat this aggressive behavior with any member. It seems as though they were here to let the reputation of forum be stooping over time.


But, I'd like to remind you of words were told to me previously, and I made them as a ring in my ears. "Try to take attacks easier and not to show offender that they got you. People like offenders thrive on seeing that their bullying has worked.By replying with decent words, you can put offender in his place more effectively."

Sometimes I was attacked directly, other times, indirectly. Although I was not the first one who throw the stone at the offender, I have been banned. I still don't know why, but I think since I replied to the aggressor in the same offensive behaviour.
Yes, it is true that for each action there is a reaction. So, we can not blame if an offended person replied in same rude words. But they would both end up to be offenders in the end, and the judges are the moderators.





Whoever doesn't own what he promises to those who do not deserve must not promise it.
BobShilling
Posted: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 5:26:38 AM
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Location: Beroun, Stredocesky, Czech Republic
A cooperator wrote:
So, we can not blame if an offended person replied in same rude words.


The question of who offended first and who is to blame is often very subjective, and it is irrelevant here. This forum is not the place for name-calling or snark.
Wilmar (USA)
Posted: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:45:27 AM

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Is there a way to "block" commenters on this site? I have 2 in mind that I would like to never see on the radar, again.
Helenej
Posted: Friday, October 12, 2018 4:43:33 PM

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Location: Kiev, Kyiv City, Ukraine
Hey, everyone! I’m terribly sorry I didn’t immediately reply to each of you who posted in this thread and waited for me to respond. Now that I am back, I’m going to satisfy you all. (By the way, the three days in the Carpathians were fabulous. Sunny and up to 24 C! The autumn is gorgeous this year.)

Lotje1000 wrote:
Ad hominem, throwing shade on someone's "manliness".

I am not “throwing shade”, Lotje. I am quite straighforwardly pointing out the absence of this quality in BobShilling, using sarcasm. Why don’t you report to the admins that I don’t consider Bob manly?

You can also report other “ad hominems” to them. However, I think the list of my crimes is too short. Why don’t you sweep all my posts beginning from 2013 in order to find more evidence and sound more convincing? What if you are lucky and catch me say to anyone words like those that D00M uses here:

“pesky kid”
“idiot”
“poor creature”
“pest”
“crazed psycho”
“annoying fly”
“You are disgusting”
“I'm not a psychiatrist!
“You leave bullshit on my threads”
.

Helenej
Posted: Friday, October 12, 2018 4:47:19 PM

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Location: Kiev, Kyiv City, Ukraine
BobShilling wrote:
This thread is getting horribly sidetracked from the the original post and the first two responses. How about leaving it there and waiting for admins to respond in some way?

Good idea, Bob. I wish you had also noticed earlier that this thread is called “An open letter to admins”, not “An open letter to BobShilling”.
Helenej
Posted: Friday, October 12, 2018 4:57:02 PM

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Location: Kiev, Kyiv City, Ukraine
D00M wrote:
Make a picture of them and put them on the wall of your room not to forget who you are.

I’d rather put them up here so that people don’t forget who you are and what a foul mouth people from your nation got:

“pesky kid”
“idiot”
“poor creature”
“pest”
“crazed psycho”
“annoying fly”
“You are disgusting”
“I'm not a psychiatrist!
“You leave bullshit on my threads”
.

I wonder if your mum, whom you repeatedly bragged about on the forum, taught you these words by addressing you this way or just by drilling them into your head?


D00M wrote:
Haven't you found any answer to the paragraphs in green yet?

Haven’t you found any of my numerous insults of your mum yet?

D00M wrote:
A special thanks to Lotje; took the words right out of my mouth.

Lotje did you a big favor, D00M. Now that there are fewer words in your mouth, there is more space for your tongue to wiggle while licking out.

D00M wrote:
BobShilling wrote:
This thread is getting horribly sidetracked from the the original post and the first two responses. How about leaving it there ... ?

I will do as advised, Bob.

Something tells me that D00M won’t be able to keep his promise and leave this tread. Let’s watch.

Lotje1000
Posted: Saturday, October 13, 2018 11:14:24 AM

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Helenej wrote:
I am not “throwing shade”, Lotje. I am quite straighforwardly pointing out the absence of this quality in BobShilling, using sarcasm. Why don’t you report to the admins that I don’t consider Bob manly?


More ad hominem - at least it's made clear it's intentional now.

Helenej wrote:
You can also report other “ad hominems” to them. However, I think the list of my crimes is too short. Why don’t you sweep all my posts beginning from 2013 in order to find more evidence and sound more convincing? What if you are lucky and catch me say to anyone words like those that D00M uses here:


I can only repeat what I said before: "If you want to debate issues, you should debate issues, not the person behind it. Especially not if you're then going to call them out for using inappropriate language, while using inappropriate language yourself."

Helenej wrote:
Good idea, Bob. I wish you had also noticed earlier that this thread is called “An open letter to admins”, not “An open letter to BobShilling”.


Misunderstanding of the point of an "open letter" (intended for a specific audience but a wide readership) and the concept of a forum.

Helenej wrote:
I’d rather put them up here so that people don’t forget who you are and what a foul mouth people from your nation got: [...] I wonder if your mum, whom you repeatedly bragged about on the forum, taught you these words by addressing you this way or just by drilling them into your head?


More ad hominem, now also insulting a whole nation.

Helenej wrote:
Now that there are fewer words in your mouth, there is more space for your tongue to wiggle while licking out.


Confusion. As I have no idea what tongues and licking have to do with this discussion.
BobShilling
Posted: Saturday, October 13, 2018 11:29:37 AM
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Lotje1000 wrote:
I can only repeat what I said before: "If you want to debate issues, you should debate issues, not the person behind it. Especially not if you're then going to call them out for using inappropriate language, while using inappropriate language yourself."

It's pointless, Lotje. As the admins/mods are doing nothing about the thread, I am just going to leave it to the two main players. Let's just hope this does not spread to other threads and cause the whole English Grammar forum to be poisoned - as happened in the past in the Politics forum more than once.
Helenej
Posted: Saturday, October 13, 2018 5:48:21 PM

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Location: Kiev, Kyiv City, Ukraine
Lotje1000 wrote:
More ad hominem - at least it's made clear it's intentional now.

Lotje, if I say things, I always say them intentionally. Why should you doubt that? Is it different with you and you have trouble controlling what you are saying?

Lotje1000 wrote:
I can only repeat what I said before: "If you want to debate issues, you should debate issues, not the person behind it."

Lotje, save your instructions for your great-grandchildren and train them as much as you wish. I am debating here whatever I want. Period.

Lotje1000 wrote:
More ad hominem, now also insulting a whole nation.

Not at all. It is D00M who is insulting his nation, being its representative here, on the international forum. He makes others think that everyone in his nation has a foul mouth.

Lotje1000 wrote:
Confusion. As I have no idea what tongues and licking have to do with this discussion.

Don’t worry. I am sure D00M has clear ideas so he can clarify that for you.

Helenej
Posted: Saturday, October 13, 2018 5:54:49 PM

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Location: Kiev, Kyiv City, Ukraine
BobShilling wrote:
This forum is not the place for name-calling or snark.

You remembered this only now, didn’t you? You didn’t remember it when you were gloatingly listening to those dirty words of your dirty-mouthed foreign friend?

BobShilling wrote:
As the admins/mods are doing nothing about the thread, I am just going to leave it to the two main players. Let's just hope this does not spread to other threads and cause the whole English Grammar forum to be poisoned.

I see. For you, the forum gets poisoned when you have to hear the truth about yourself. You don’t care a fig when other people make it poisoned by using their dirty language. Of course not – if you frown at them, they might stop calling you that sweet title - “the respected teacher”.

Lotje1000
Posted: Sunday, October 14, 2018 8:34:40 AM

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BobShilling wrote:

It's pointless, Lotje. As the admins/mods are doing nothing about the thread, I am just going to leave it to the two main players. Let's just hope this does not spread to other threads and cause the whole English Grammar forum to be poisoned - as happened in the past in the Politics forum more than once.


Fair, and also sad. I'll take you up on your advice.
TFD
Posted: Monday, October 15, 2018 10:20:01 AM

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As we stated in another thread:

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