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SG1992
Posted: Thursday, June 7, 2018 8:31:45 AM
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Hi ;)

Do these sentences sound right, please? Especially the bold parts.

What a pity that I missed your party!
What a shame that I had to go away just when your party started.
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Thursday, June 7, 2018 9:32:08 AM

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Hi!
They are both correct. They both sound fairly natural (but, to me, they sound a little too formal for an exclamation). The second one is OK, as it is (without an exclamation mark).

In a letter, I would expect something more like "It was a shame that I had to miss the party." (not "What a shame . . .")

In speech, I would be rather more informal and emotional "I was really annoyed that I had to miss your party!" (you could replace "really annoyed" with any cursing and swearing you would normally use).

To me, "what a pity" sounds so 'unfeeling' and insincere.

If something bad happened, your friend fell down the stairs, would you be more likely to exclaim "Oh my god! (or your chosen exclamation) Are you OK?" or would you say "Oh. What a pity you fell down the stairs."?

Wyrd bið ful aræd - bull!
SG1992
Posted: Thursday, June 7, 2018 6:19:26 PM
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Thank you, Drag0nspeaker ;)

If that happened I would definitely go for the first one ("Oh my god! Are you OK?").
leonAzul
Posted: Friday, June 8, 2018 3:11:46 AM

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SG1992 wrote:
Hi ;)

Do these sentences sound right, please? Especially the bold parts.

What a pity that I missed your party!
What a shame that I had to go away just when your party started.


In the case of a social event, I most likely would say or write (via e-message) "Sorry I missed your party."

I mostly share the same sentiments with Drag0nspeaker, yet would add that, realistically speaking, my initial reaction to a serious injury would naturally be much stronger than "Oh my God! (OMG)"

Think

I say this not to encourage rude language, but rather to more clearly identify its place and value.


"Make it go away, Mrs Whatsit," he whispered. "Make it go away. It's evil."
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Friday, June 8, 2018 3:42:11 AM

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Yes - my normal "chosen exclamation" would be different (I never say "Oh, my god" unless I'm imitating someone - similar to when I way "Awesome!").


Wyrd bið ful aræd - bull!
leonAzul
Posted: Friday, June 8, 2018 4:38:07 AM

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Drag0nspeaker wrote:
Yes - my normal "chosen exclamation" would be different (I never say "Oh, my god" unless I'm imitating someone - similar to when I way "Awesome!").


This reminds me of a joke from the 1940s.

A more elaborate telling of the joke would be more amusing, yet the crux of it is that often polite ejaculations such as "Awesome!" or "Extraordinary!" or "Remarkable!" are no more than euphemisms for a more earthy and sincere expression of a critical conclusion of a yet again euphemistic appraisal of bovine effluvia.
Whistle


"Make it go away, Mrs Whatsit," he whispered. "Make it go away. It's evil."
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Friday, June 8, 2018 4:54:28 AM

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a yet again euphemistic appraisal of bovine effluvia.

Sounds like the way people from some bits of the US pronounce it.

Arseum! Whistle

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leonAzul
Posted: Friday, June 8, 2018 4:59:42 AM

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Drag0nspeaker wrote:

Arseum! Whistle


You're wicked.

I like you.
Whistle


"Make it go away, Mrs Whatsit," he whispered. "Make it go away. It's evil."
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