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DO YOU HOLD / HAVE YOU HELD Options
prince
Posted: Monday, May 14, 2018 11:56:30 AM
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Do you hold or have you held any other nationality other than the one indicated?

Please help me understand the difference between the two.

Thank you
Prince
Ashwin Joshi
Posted: Monday, May 14, 2018 12:03:08 PM

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Do you hold or have you held any other nationality other than the one indicated?

Do you hold means 'Do you still hold'?.

Have you ever held any other nationality than, the one indicated, in the past? IMO


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thar
Posted: Monday, May 14, 2018 12:18:17 PM

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Compare it with:

Do you live in France?
Yes, I live in France.

That is where I live now.


Have you ever lived in France?
Yes, I have lived in France and Italy. But now I live in Britain.
Those are places I have lived in, at some point in the past.

It is present perfect because that fact is still true and relevant in my life - I can't undo it!

But I am not living in France or Italy now - I live in Britain.


If you have held citizenship of a country, it is a big deal - that fact remains relevant now, even if you have changed your nationality since then.


You can hold citizenship of one country ('the one indicated above')
For some people:
You can also hold citizenship of another country now (dual citizenship)
Or you could have held citizenship of another country in the past, but relinquished it, so you no longer hold it. But this form still needs to know about it!
prince
Posted: Monday, May 14, 2018 12:59:55 PM
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thar wrote:
Compare it with:

Do you live in France?
Yes, I live in France.

That is where I live now.


Have you ever lived in France?
Yes, I have lived in France and Italy. But now I live in Britain.
Those are places I have lived in, at some point in the past.

It is present perfect because that fact is still true and relevant in my life - I can't undo it!

But I am not living in France or Italy now - I live in Britain.


If you have held citizenship of a country, it is a big deal - that fact remains relevant now, even if you have changed your nationality since then.


You can hold citizenship of one country ('the one indicated above')
For some people:
You can also hold citizenship of another country now (dual citizenship)
Or you could have held citizenship of another country in the past, but relinquished it, so you no longer hold it. But this form still needs

to know about it!



Is there any difference if say Had you held any citizenship before?
thar
Posted: Monday, May 14, 2018 1:15:24 PM

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Had you held?

Is past perfect. That is before some other stated event that happened in the past and relative to that point in time. There is no other past event mentioned. So that is incorrect.

The present perfect is coirrecytpt because this is something that is not erased.
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