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cheekyme
Posted: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 7:09:56 AM
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Do you think AI can ever exceed human intelligence, take advantage of it and pose a real threat to us? (So many stories around ...)

“Tell me and I forget, teach me and I may remember, involve me and I learn.” ― Benjamin Franklin
FX2
Posted: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 7:47:19 AM
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Pray I hope not.

Just imagining my toaster coming to me when I'm asleep...
cheekyme
Posted: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 7:58:05 AM
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FX2 wrote:
Pray I hope not.

Just imagining my toaster coming to me when I'm asleep...


That could be actually a good thing -- longer lay in bed ... Applause

“Tell me and I forget, teach me and I may remember, involve me and I learn.” ― Benjamin Franklin
towan52
Posted: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 8:39:44 AM

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From the agricultural community, where "AI" indicates "Artificial Insemination", a whole new perspective gets opened up! Whistle

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taurine
Posted: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 9:03:12 AM

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I know how small I know, so below:

https://www.mckinsey.com/business-functions/mckinsey-analytics/our-insights/how-artificial-intelligence-can-deliver-real-value-to-companies

This may give you an opportunity to explore more, if you wish so.

By the way, the article to which a link I supplied ends with another link to download discussion paper. Something like 80 pages. But the language used is rather easy to understand.
cheekyme
Posted: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 9:04:59 AM
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towan52 wrote:
From the agricultural community, where "AI" indicates "Artificial Insemination", a whole new perspective gets opened up! Whistle


Vets might be in greater demand in future than software guys, then.

“Tell me and I forget, teach me and I may remember, involve me and I learn.” ― Benjamin Franklin
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Sunday, November 26, 2017 1:07:37 AM

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I just watched "Ex Machina" - a film about AI.



Quite good, and I liked the "twist in the tale" at the end.

My opinion and belief (philosophy, not science) is that a computer could be built (maybe not quite yet, but soon) which is as complex as the human brain and had the experience/learning ability to pass a Turing test fully.

However, self-awareness is not purely a matter of brain.
There are, in hospitals around the world, fully-functioning bodies with 'nobody home' - the brain is not damaged and is not physically disconnected from the nervous system.

Science could not produce a human mind, as such. However, a real AI is a good possibility.


Wyrd bið ful aræd - bull!
will
Posted: Sunday, November 26, 2017 12:20:22 PM
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I believe some computer programmes have already passed the Turing Test. How meaningful the Turing test is as a yardstick is open to debate, but it’s clear that computers are already on a par with human ‘intelligence’.

However this is a long way from the idea that computer may become a threat – without human error or design. If a computer is ever designed with opposable thumbs and the ability to plug itself back into a power outlet, then I’ll start worrying.


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Hope123
Posted: Sunday, November 26, 2017 4:10:23 PM

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will wrote:
I believe some computer programmes have already passed the Turing Test. How meaningful the Turing test is as a yardstick is open to debate, but it’s clear that computers are already on a par with human ‘intelligence’.

However this is a long way from the idea that computer may become a threat – without human error or design. If a computer is ever designed with opposable thumbs and the ability to plug itself back into a power outlet, then I’ll start worrying.


Applause Applause Applause

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almo 1
Posted: Sunday, November 26, 2017 4:22:38 PM
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Drag0nspeaker wrote:
I just watched "Ex Machina" - a film about AI.



Quite good, and I liked the "twist in the tale" at the end.

My opinion and belief (philosophy, not science) is that a computer could be built (maybe not quite yet, but soon) which is as complex as the human brain and had the experience/learning ability to pass a Turing test fully.

However, self-awareness is not purely a matter of brain.
There are, in hospitals around the world, fully-functioning bodies with 'nobody home' - the brain is not damaged and is not physically disconnected from the nervous system.

Science could not produce a human mind, as such. However, a real AI is a good possibility.









And Automata







Kampong
Posted: Monday, November 27, 2017 12:22:25 PM
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AI is just a complex computer programme... Of course one should fear it.

A computer programme with a bug - or a rogue robot what's the difference.
As for the jobs:
Luddites fear for employment, and eventually they will be right just as Malthus will evenually be right (because of inabilty to improve on yield over a certain level)
Ashwin Joshi
Posted: Sunday, December 03, 2017 10:00:33 AM

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Yes, it will, soon. May not pose a great threat but minor cannot be ruled out. Increasing population and joblessness can create chaos and anarchy. AI does billions and trillions of calculations in a jiffy while for doing the same calculations human brain may take many years. A small programme/iS mobile app Siri is an astounding example of AI.

Me Gathering Pebbles at The Seashore.-Aj
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