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Stephen Senter🇺🇸📰
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Noun 1. samovar - a metal urn with a spigot at the basesamovar - a metal urn with a spigot at the base; used in Russia to boil water for tea
urn - a large pot for making coffee or tea
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Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
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Stephen Senter🇺🇸 wrote:
Noun 1. samovar - a metal urn with a spigot at the basesamovar - a metal urn with a spigot at the base; used in Russia to boil water for tea

I do not know why any English dictionary has it. As I understand it it has never been used in any English speaking country.

Here's a picture called 'Чаепитие в Мытищах'. It's in the centre:



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Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1 wrote:
I do not know why any English dictionary has it. As I understand it it has never been used in any English speaking country.

Someone has been telling you lies!

They have been in use in England since the beginnings of trade on the Silk Road. Most commonly though since the beginnings of the Empire and the East India Company's annexation of Kashmir. The Kashmiri word is 'samavar'.

This one's Georgian (late eighteenth century).





Wyrd bið ful aræd - bull!
Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
Posted: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 9:37:53 AM

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Drag0nspeaker wrote:
The Kashmiri word is 'samavar'.

I'll tell you the secret - it is a Russian word. This is a regular pattern in Russian:

самовар - сам варит
самолет - сам летает
самокат - сам катится
самосвал - сам сваливает
саморез - сам режет


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Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:01:06 AM

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Hi!

Yes - I saw the etymology - 'samo' (self) + varit (boil).

Quite possibly the word spread from Russia to the Stans (Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Pakistan) and thence to Kashmir and to India and Britain (as well as directly from Russia to Britain and Russia to Europe to Britain).

Quote:
". . . Jehangir Art Gallery, named for Cowasji Jehangir who donated for its foundation in the 1950s. This yellow stone building needs no introduction to the art connoisseur or to the uninitiated for that matter. A 'watering hole' of sorts for Mumbai's intellectuals, this gallery is also where one of the city's most popular cafes, Samovar, is located."
History Lessons in Mumbai - Albawaba.com

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tunaafi
Posted: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:47:17 AM

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Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1 wrote:

I do not know why any English

It is defined in 31 dictionaries here - and in other dictionaries - because, as Drag0 told you, it has been in use in English-speaking countries for many years.

My mother (100% English) having died recently, I am now in possession of the samovar she used for 45 years.
Jyrkkä Jätkä
Posted: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 4:00:41 AM

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The word (samovaari) has been in use in Finland for centuries. But hey, we are neighbours ;-)


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Romany
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Tuna - my condolences on the death of your mother. Doesn't matter *when* it happens, it leaves a hole, doesn't it?
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Thanks, Romany.
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