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Jigneshbharati
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Meeting her like that, and there of all places, was true serendipity!

http://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/serendipity

please explain to me the meaning of "there of all places"?


Is "there" a pronoun here? what is it's antecedent?


I understand "of" is a preposition so what so does it connect here- all places and ?



leonAzul
Posted: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 12:52:27 PM

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Jigneshbharati wrote:
Meeting her like that, and there of all places, was true serendipity!

http://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/serendipity

please explain to me the meaning of "there of all places"?


Is "there" a pronoun here? what is it's antecedent?


I understand "of" is a preposition so what so does it connect here- all places and ?





In that context, "there" means at that location, and that it was very much a surprise.

"Make it go away, Mrs Whatsit," he whispered. "Make it go away. It's evil."
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 1:02:25 PM

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Hi!

This is an idiom - the phrase 'of all places' has a meaning something like "though no-one would believe it could happen there".

The sentence is two ideas combined.

Meeting her like that was true serendipity.

Meeting her there (of all places) was true serendipity.

I have no idea where "there" is or why it is so surprising that he met her there.

As an example:
"She" is a very modern teenage girl, who loves dancing and popular music, does not like art or history.
You know she is somewhere in this town and look in all the dance-clubs and places like that but don't find her.
Then you go into the restaurant in the art gallery and museum, and there she is!

Meeting her was true serendipity - you did not expect her to be THERE, because she did not like art and history - why would she be in the museum?

Meeting her THERE, of all places, was true serendipity.


Wyrd bið ful aræd - bull!
leonAzul
Posted: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 1:10:13 PM

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Drag0nspeaker wrote:
Hi!

This is an idiom - the phrase 'of all places' has a meaning something like "though no-one would believe it could happen there".

The sentence is two ideas combined.

Meeting her like that was true serendipity.

Meeting her there (of all places) was true serendipity.

I have no idea where "there" is or why it is so surprising that he met her there.

As an example:
"She" is a very modern teenage girl, who loves dancing and popular music, does not like art or history.
You know she is somewhere in this town and look in all the dance-clubs and places like that but don't find her.
Then you go into the restaurant in the art gallery and museum, and there she is!

Meeting her was true serendipity - you did not expect her to be THERE, because she did not like art and history - why would she be in the museum?

Meeting her THERE, of all places, was true serendipity.


Get to it, man!

vini, vidi, vinci

(and he shagged her)

Dancing

"Make it go away, Mrs Whatsit," he whispered. "Make it go away. It's evil."
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 1:18:34 PM

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In the museum restaurant? Anxious

Wyrd bið ful aræd - bull!
leonAzul
Posted: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 1:25:09 PM

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Drag0nspeaker wrote:

In the museum restaurant? Anxious


The Restaurant at the End of the Universe

Dancing
Or was it like Trillian?

"Make it go away, Mrs Whatsit," he whispered. "Make it go away. It's evil."
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 1:36:08 PM

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Don't Panic!

Wyrd bið ful aræd - bull!
Jigneshbharati
Posted: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 2:00:35 PM
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Thanks
NKM
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"There" is an adverb of place; we depend on context to indicate what place it refers to.

"Of all places" is an idiom which means that the place involved is somewhere unexpected or unlikely to be associated with the action or occasion.

Note also:
- "He, of all people, should know me better than that."  ("He, more than anyone else…")
- "Why ask me that, of all things?"  ("That's the last [most unlikely] thing I'd expect you to ask me.")

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