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Drag0npeaker
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 2:34:41 AM
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Hi everyone! I am a new dragon member.

Do you believe in the existence of "real" dragons in pre-historic times?
srirr
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 3:28:01 AM

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Welcome new dragon member!
Your ID is interesting for obvious reasons. And so is your post. Its not so difficult to sense your 'love' for dragon.
Wish you all the best!





We are responsible for what we are, and whatever we wish ourselves to be, we have the power to make ourselves. ~ Swami Vivekanand
Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 3:46:17 AM

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srirr wrote:
Welcome new dragon member!

Two Drag0ns are one too many. This phony one should be hung, drawn and quinted.

აბა ყვავებს ვინ დაიჭერს, კარგო? გალიაში ბულბულები ზიან.
almo 1
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Drag0nspeaker
Drag0npeaker
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Terribly confusing name,
it's like A Cultural War.





A Cultural War





srirr
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:06:06 AM

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Do you know why this confusion is? Whistle Whistle



We are responsible for what we are, and whatever we wish ourselves to be, we have the power to make ourselves. ~ Swami Vivekanand
nani_n
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:15:48 AM
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Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1 wrote:

Two Drag0ns are one too many. This phony one should be hung, drawn and quinted.


Hi, I don't understand this sentence. Could you please tell me the meaning of this sentence.
almo 1
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:25:28 AM
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"nani" means "what?" in Japanese.





nani_n
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:57:46 AM
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I mean this sentence:

Two Drag0ns are one too many. This phony one should be hung, drawn and quinted.
almo 1
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 6:11:40 AM
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quinted is a typo.





Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 6:20:53 AM

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almo 1 wrote:
quinted is a typo.

'hung' is an error. It should have been 'hanged':

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanged,_drawn_and_quartered

'quinted' is intended - a dragon has a tail. Unless you mean it should have been 'quintered'.

აბა ყვავებს ვინ დაიჭერს, კარგო? გალიაში ბულბულები ზიან.
Y111
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 6:34:37 AM
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The Russian dragon also had three heads. So the verb depends on its origings.
Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 6:56:45 AM

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Y111 wrote:
The Russian dragon also had three heads. So the verb depends on its origings.

The head is not counted in the original. Why would I care about three Russian heads?

აბა ყვავებს ვინ დაიჭერს, კარგო? გალიაში ბულბულები ზიან.
Y111
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 7:18:37 AM
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Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1 wrote:

The head is not counted in the original. Why would I care about three Russian heads?

Because the tail is not counted in the original either but you counted it.
progpen
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Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. ― Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
almo 1
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 7:59:01 AM
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Fan-freaking-tasticBoo hoo!



progpen
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 8:06:26 AM

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What's a peaker?

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. ― Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 8:23:18 AM

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progpen wrote:
What's a peaker?

TFD says:

Quote:
A small fixed or adjustable inductance used to resonate with stray and distributed capacitances in a broad-band amplifier to increase the gain at the higher frequencies.

Sounds like something intricate, delicate and funny to extract with pincers, better yet forceps.


აბა ყვავებს ვინ დაიჭერს, კარგო? გალიაში ბულბულები ზიან.
Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 8:27:10 AM

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Y111 wrote:
Because the tail is not counted in the original either but you counted it.

The original did not apply to betailed creatures.

აბა ყვავებს ვინ დაიჭერს, კარგო? გალიაში ბულბულები ზიან.
Y111
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 8:32:03 AM
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Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1 wrote:

The original did not apply to betailed creatures.

I've never tried to apply it to them. If you mean something else, please clarify.
almo 1
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 8:57:55 AM
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King Ghidorah has three heads too, plus two tails.










"The initial idea for Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster came from Tomoyuki Tanaka, who also created Godzilla. Tanaka's inspiration came from an illustration of the Lernaean Hydra in a book about Greek Mythology, and Orochi of Japanese folklore."






Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:26:13 AM

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almo 1 wrote:
King Ghidorah has three heads too, plus two tails.

1. Copying a thing
2. Adding some alterations
3. Changing the name
4. Claiming that they invented it
This pattern is repeated



აბა ყვავებს ვინ დაიჭერს, კარგო? გალიაში ბულბულები ზიან.
Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:29:58 AM

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Y111 wrote:
Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1 wrote:
The original did not apply to betailed creatures.

I've never tried to apply it to them. If you mean something else, please clarify.

You have!

Y111 wrote:
Because the tail is not counted in the original either but you counted it.

This implies there was a tail and it wasn't counted.

აბა ყვავებს ვინ დაიჭერს, კარგო? გალიაში ბულბულები ზიან.
Y111
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:11:10 AM
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Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1 wrote:

This implies there was a tail and it wasn't counted.

Where there? I just meant, if you counted the tail, why not count the heads? I fail to see the logic behind your reasoning.
Lotje1000
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Y111 wrote:
Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1 wrote:

This implies there was a tail and it wasn't counted.

Where there? I just meant, if you counted the tail, why not count the heads? I fail to see the logic behind your reasoning.


When someone is drawn and quartered, the limbs are counted, but not their head. I assume Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1 was applying the same logic to dragons and added a tail to get to five.
Y111
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:10:30 AM
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Lotje1000 wrote:

When someone is drawn and quartered, the limbs are counted, but not their head. I assume Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1 was applying the same logic to dragons and added a tail to get to five.

So, the tail is a limb and the head is not? OK. Although I could argue that the tail is exactly opposite to the head, since it's the other end of the spine. But I am no expert in this field.
coag
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almo 1
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Y111 wrote:
Lotje1000 wrote:

When someone is drawn and quartered, the limbs are counted, but not their head. I assume Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1 was applying the same logic to dragons and added a tail to get to five.

So, the tail is a limb and the head is not? OK. Although I could argue that the tail is exactly opposite to the head, since it's the other end of the spine. But I am no expert in this field.








https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tail


The tail is the section at the rear end of an animal's body; in general, the term refers to a distinct, flexible appendage to the torso.

It is the part of the body that corresponds roughly to the sacrum and coccyx in mammals, reptiles, and birds.

While tails are primarily a feature of vertebrates, some invertebrates including scorpions and springtails, as well as snails and slugs, have tail-like appendages that are sometimes referred to as tails.








Lotje1000
Posted: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 2:24:12 AM

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Y111 wrote:
Lotje1000 wrote:

When someone is drawn and quartered, the limbs are counted, but not their head. I assume Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1 was applying the same logic to dragons and added a tail to get to five.

So, the tail is a limb and the head is not? OK. Although I could argue that the tail is exactly opposite to the head, since it's the other end of the spine. But I am no expert in this field.


As I said, in 'traditional' quartering, the head is not counted. Feel free to take the naming up with the inventors if you disagree. Fact remains that the naming does not take the head into account and that same 'logic' was applied to dragons in the scenario here.
Y111
Posted: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 3:27:34 AM
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Lotje1000 wrote:

As I said, in 'traditional' quartering, the head is not counted. Feel free to take the naming up with the inventors if you disagree. Fact remains that the naming does not take the head into account and that same 'logic' was applied to dragons in the scenario here.

The tail was not counted either. Some people are born with tails, as you probably know.
Lotje1000
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Y111 wrote:
Lotje1000 wrote:

As I said, in 'traditional' quartering, the head is not counted. Feel free to take the naming up with the inventors if you disagree. Fact remains that the naming does not take the head into account and that same 'logic' was applied to dragons in the scenario here.

The tail was not counted either. Some people are born with tails, as you probably know.


Some people, sure, but not enough to make it a common thing by any means. And even if the tail exists, it's too small to be used during quartering.
Y111
Posted: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 4:36:15 AM
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Lotje1000 wrote:

Some people, sure, but not enough to make it a common thing by any means. And even if the tail exists, it's too small to be used during quartering.

I agree. However, I'd rather retain the old name of quartering. If the convict has a tail, they should be beheaded, betailed and quartered. If the tail is absent, you just skip that stage. This looks more symmetrical.
Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
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Y111 wrote:
If the convict has a tail, they should be beheaded, betailed and quartered. If the tail is absent, you just skip that stage. This looks more symmetrical.

You nitpick! Ok I plead guilty.

Quote:
УК РФ, Статья 75. Освобождение от уголовной ответственности в связи с деятельным раскаянием

1. Лицо, впервые совершившее преступление небольшой или средней тяжести, может быть освобождено от уголовной ответственности, если после совершения преступления добровольно явилось с повинной, способствовало раскрытию и расследованию этого преступления, возместило ущерб или иным образом загладило вред, причиненный этим преступлением, и вследствие деятельного раскаяния перестало быть общественно опасным.

Google Translate:

Quote:
Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, Article 75. Exemption from criminal liability in connection with active repentance

1. A person who for the first time committed a crime of small or medium gravity may be released from criminal liability if, after the commission of the crime, he voluntarily confessed, facilitated the discovery and investigation of this crime, reimbursed or otherwise redressed the harm caused by this crime and, Remorse has ceased to be socially dangerous.


აბა ყვავებს ვინ დაიჭერს, კარგო? გალიაში ბულბულები ზიან.
Maryam Dad
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I am beginning to love this new dragon member...
Tsukurimashou!


"And the sun and the moon are brought together --" (Al Qiyamah: 9)
almo 1
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How to Draw a Dragon:



Step-By-Step









Sanmayce
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"Kindness is a mark of faith. and whoever is not kind has no faith."

Where does this originate from?

As for real dragons, how can one dismiss their existence seeing a similar creature as T-rex:



He learns not to learn and reverts to what all men pass by.
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