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Joe Kim
Posted: Monday, July 17, 2017 5:46:22 PM

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As with tensile longitudinal reinforcing, compressive reinforcement does not resist shear stress.

Is the sentence correct? Or is it missing anything?
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:18:05 PM

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It is not missing anything grammatically - it sounds fine. (Whether it is technically true, I have no idea!)

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thar
Posted: Monday, July 17, 2017 7:00:11 PM

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I think this would be fine, as drago says.

But if I were being really pedantic, I would say it feels just a little bit wrong to me, because you are making a simple comparison.

Tensile longitudinal reinforcement
is like
compressive reinforcement.

Neither resist shear stress.


So you are making a simple comparison -'like'.


Like tlr, clr does not resist shear stress.


What you have is 'as with'. So you are saying 'with...'
With tlr, something happens.

I.e.
With tlr, there is no resistance to shear stress
As with tlr, with clr there is no resistance to shear stress.

So you have to use structure or the other.

You can't combine the two, because these are not matching sentences. They are different structures.

(The short way I have written it, clr and tlr, is just for clarity of the rest of the sentence, and to save typing. They are not how you would actually write it).
Hector Moisés
Posted: Monday, July 17, 2017 8:52:30 PM

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I think it should be: "Like as with tensile longitudinal reinforcing |
palapaguy
Posted: Monday, July 17, 2017 8:57:22 PM

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Joe Kim wrote:
As with tensile longitudinal reinforcing, compressive reinforcement does not resist shear stress.

Is the sentence correct? Or is it missing anything?

Do you mean grammatically correct? Yes.
Whether it's missing anything cannot be answered here. If it should contain something that's not present, the sentence is missing that. Only the author would know.
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Monday, July 17, 2017 10:02:22 PM

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Hello Joe Kim.

In general "as with", as a phrase, has a meaning of "as is the case with" or "just like" or "as is true with", "like".

The first phrase is an additional piece of data.

Compressive reinforcement does not resist shear stress (as is the case with tensile longitudinal reinforcing).



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Joe Kim
Posted: Monday, July 17, 2017 11:12:45 PM

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Thank you everyone.

The original sentence contains "the" in front of compressive reinforment. Because I am so so so confused with this "the" thing...I was trying to solve the puzzle of this "the"
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 1:31:20 AM

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Ah!

Your sentence - "As with tensile longitudinal reinforcing, compressive reinforcement does not resist shear stress" - sounds correct.

"As with tensile longitudinal reinforcing, the compressive reinforcement does not resist shear stress" does not sound correct to me.
Possibly there may be some situation in which that would be used, but I don't see one.

If I were talking about some specific compressive reinforcement on something, I would use a different form of sentence - something like:
"The compressive reinforcement (in this beam) does not resist shear stress, but neither would tensile longitudinal reinforcement."

The original sentence sounds odd to me because it is speaking of actual existing compressive reinforcement, but hypothetical, theoretical tensile reinforcing - so one needs an indicative-style verb (does not) and the other needs a modal verb (would). This is not possible with the form of the original sentence.


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