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Julius Caesar (100 BCE)

Caesar was a Roman general and statesman who formed the First Triumvirate with Pompey and Marcus Licinius Crassus and later precipitated the Roman Civil War, defeating Pompey and becoming dictator for life. His dictatorial powers, however, inspired great resentment. He was in the midst of launching a series of political and social reforms when he was assassinated on the Ides of March by conspirators led by Cassius and Brutus. Caesar's commentaries on what wars are considered classic military documents? More...
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Rex Harrison.
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I had to study Caesar's De Bello Gallico for Latin, and I am surprised the man ever conquered anyone. As far as I can see, his army spent their entire time retreating to winter quarters, going out and cutting wood, gathering grain, and building fences and ditches. I am sure I would remember if there were any actual battles!

But I am forever grateful - the guy sure could write nice simple Latin Applause Applause Applause

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The Ides of March
thar
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Or, the best quote in comedy films:

Infamy, Infamy, they've all go it in for me!

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Et Tu, Thare?

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thar
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Me? only et one. I left one in the fridge, honest!
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mustard bean salmon else then.

I totally take back all those times I didn't want to nap when I was younger. (Anon)
thar
Posted: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:21:14 AM

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IMcRout wrote:
mustard bean salmon else then.


I think this sums up so well how the tfd community can make priceless and insightful contributions to intellectual discussion about the most famous emperor of one of the most important empires in history.

Bravo!!!

But the really important question -
Why does his salad have bits in????Think
IMcRout
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That's pretty obvious, isn't it? Leftovers from his section. [groan] groan [/groan]

But you're right. Let us remember some of his more memorable achievements:

Morituri te salutant!

Veni, vidi, vici.

Alea iacta est!

Ceterum censeo Carthaginem... no, that wasn't Caesar.

Ave Caesar!

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thar
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You are too polite!

Carthago delenda est!

I was always impressed by a language that has a special tense just for ordering fate!

("But, for my own part, it was Greek to me". - Julius Caesar (Act I, Scene II).)

and, a sad but true comment on the state of the world:

The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones;


and my personal totem

He thinks too much: such men are dangerous.

Live dangerously!!Dancing



IMcRout
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Let's stick to that beautiful old admonition 'Carpe Diem'.

(To which a friend of mine always added 'noctemque'.)

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"Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero" Quintus Horatius Flaccus (Horace)
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Great conversation! Applause

One of my favourite Julius Caesar's quotes: "Fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt." Men (people) willingly believe what they wish/want to.
MTC
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Here's another favorite Latin saying, though not from Caesar:

Flectere si nequeo superos, Achaeronta movebo. (if I cannot move heaven I will raise hell.)

Virgil's Aeneid, book 7
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Sad, but not necessarily true, MTC.

Enough of gloomy quotations. Let's better stick, like IMc said, to that beautiful old admonition 'Carpe Diem'. :)
IMcRout
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NOCTEMQUE

I totally take back all those times I didn't want to nap when I was younger. (Anon)
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Mea culpa, IMc to misquote you.

Here is the erratum:

"Let's better stick, like IMc said, to that beautiful old admonition 'Carpe Diem Noctemque.' :)"
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I have decidedly mixed feelings about Caesar.

There is no denying the miracle of discipline and engineering that comprised his campaigns in Gaul. He subdued a people that could field hundreds of thousands with what, maybe 40,000 Legionnaires?

His desperate struggle with Pompey in the civil war was a marvel. Caesar should have been destroyed at Pharsalus. His strategy turned desperation into a virtue. Roman politicians pushed Pompey into a fight he didn't need, and the fact that Caesar's own men knew they had to win or die gave steel to their resolve. That, with deft manouever of infantry and cavalary, and Caesar won though outnumbered two to one.

Still,

He was more a product of his times, than a man that shaped them. Rome's late republic never arrived at a state solution to defense: taxes and a professional standing army. Their solution encouraged powerful generals that were a power unto themselves. The Senate would authorize a wealthy man to raise an army, and then lead it. Who on earth thought this was a good idea? They had Marius, and Sulla as warnings from recent past.

They were putting the knife to their own throats. In Caesar's defense, he surely despised civil war. Like any megalomanic, he saw himself as the solution. If you want peace, I can give it, just make me dictator for life. It must have seemed utterly utilitarian to him.

I'd respect him more if he'd used his power to build an apparatus for the common defense, and left the republic stronger than he found it, rather than succumbing to the temptations of power.

Still, hail Caesar, the new Rome he founded lasted another four centuries.

"Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless, and do no wrong". (Knight's Oath, Kingdom of Heaven)
MTC
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I'd like to thank HWNN1961 for his informed remarks. It's always a pleasure to listen to someone who knows what they are talking about. Now, appetite whetted, I will go back and revisit the "realms of gold."
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