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The American Society is a Mixture not a Compund. Options
Posted: Saturday, July 08, 2017 12:19:28 PM

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"I am Chinese but was born and brought up in America."
"I am a Japanese but was born and brought up in America."
'I am a Pakistani but was born and brought up in America'.
I am a German, Russian, Indian,Polish but....................

These are the common introductory salutations-cum-intros in America.
In spite of the best education, laws, systems, administration,place of birth,bringing up, living standards and, in short, every way, why do the majority of the people of America feel honored to describe their roots?

All the elements of a mixture maintain their individual properties but in a compound they loose i their individual identity and merge with each other with a a fresh nomenclature.

I am a layman.

I am a layman.
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Posted: Saturday, July 08, 2017 5:14:23 PM

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Why not?
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Posted: Saturday, July 08, 2017 6:23:06 PM
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David Brian Ury (aka Ken Tanaka) is an American film and television actor, stand-up comedian and Japanese film, anime and manga translation specialist.

Ken Tanaka speaks Japanese and English with a heavy Japanese accent and makes videos about Ken's search for his birth parents, culture and life in Japan and Los Angeles.

What kind of Asian are you?

But we're speaking Japanese!

Posted: Saturday, July 08, 2017 6:34:22 PM

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Who is American? What is the American way of thinking, smiling, putting on a pants?

When a Chinese, Japanese or German immigrated to USA, they brought their own way of cooking, thinking, bed-making to America. They learn from American culture, and American absorb part of what they bought here. Which part of them are American, and which part of them are German? They may speak English with accents, each of them are a unique American, just like other American who are born and brought up in the USA are different.

Mixture is consisted of many different compounds. A rainbow can not help but showing off its various colors. There is no way for America to just have people above 6'2" but below 6'8", or just have blond but not auburn hair. A beautiful garden needs flowers of every colors, shapes, or forms.
Posted: Sunday, July 09, 2017 9:13:47 AM
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TMe wrote:
why do the majority of the people of America feel honored to describe their roots?

In regard to Asian-Americans (Chinese-American, Japanese-American, Korean-American, etc.), the hyphenated form was once considered a badge of honor.

Asian-Americans (especially before World War II) were called the model minority by many Caucasians.

That is to say:

(a) Although discrimination prevented them from getting most jobs, when sympathetic Caucasians did hire them, they worked hard, were highly competent, and always cooperative.
(b) Their children studied hard in school and attended the university to study for the few professions that were open to them.
(c) They were (and continue to be) the most law-abiding group in the United States of America.

In 2017, some younger Asian-Americans resent the term "model minority."

They feel that Asian-Americans have an undeserved reputation of being meek.

Many younger Asian-Americans boast that they are as assertive as any other group.

For example:

A few days ago, two Asian-American TV actors quit the show they were on. They demanded that they receive the same salary as do the Caucasian actors on that show. The producers explained that the Caucasians were "stars" while the Asian-Americans were "supporting actors." Nevertheless, the two Asian-American actors confirmed that they were walking out.
Posted: Sunday, July 09, 2017 10:43:54 AM

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People are always looking for ways to feel pride in themselves. Culture is just one of those things that has been chosen for this. Of course, every culture has conflicts with other cultures, but each group wants to feel a sense of pride in their heritage.

For many who came to the US in its early days, old prejudices were rampant upon arrival. But most all of them who came here from Europe and other countries wanted to take advantage of the opportunities available and in so doing became "Americans". Still, the pride of the old country culture remained, though for many it faded a bit over time. They became Americans first, and their cultural heritage took a back seat to that. But beginning in the 1960's, a movement began which sought to divide us one again another. That was the counter-culture movement, the extreme end of which we see today.

This polarization received a large impetus with the movie Roots in 1977, which purported to show one African man's experience with slavery in the US. While the movie was a prime mover in the "hate your culture" campaign that began, many people became more interested in looking up their ancestors origins as a result. Once again, it was a way to find pride in oneself. The hyphenating of Americans became a tool in the division of our society. This is seen in the African-American society in particular, but has spread to Asia-American and Mexican-American labels too. One never hears of African-English or African-German, or Mexican-Italian. The division seems to be taking place primarily in the US. Europe has its own problems now with the Muslim invasion, and this religious/cultural divide spells danger to the unity that once was Europe.

So while it may be interesting to know the soil and culture of one's ancestors, it makes no difference (at least it shouldn't make any difference), in who the individual is and how they behave. We each have the responsibility to behave properly towards one another in our society, regardless of our ancestry.

A great many people will think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. ~ William James ~
Posted: Sunday, July 09, 2017 12:06:51 PM

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One difference between all Americans (except those whose ancestors were there before the end of the 15th century CE) and most Europeans/Asians/Africans is that, while all Americans (except ...) know that all of their ancestors came from another continent five centuries or (in many cases) only one or two centuries ago, most Europeans/Asians/Africans take it for granted that they live in the same continent that their ancestors lived in ten or more centuries ago.

One difference between the USA and many countries in Europe is that the history of the nation-state of the USA has its origins only four centuries ago. Many nation-states in Europe can trace their history back ten or more centuries.

Perhaps because of these two situations, some (many?) Americans like to feel associated with something older than their nation state.

Note that I said 'perhaps'. I am merely suggesting an idea, not stating a fact.

Posted: Sunday, July 09, 2017 12:15:36 PM

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Very nicely explained and very good advice, FounDit.

It means the aptitude of gratitude( of being American Citizens) is missing amongst the people of different races moving to the US, despite getting huge benefits as citizens or residents of the most highly developed country of the world .

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Posted: Sunday, July 09, 2017 1:27:24 PM
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As a chinses living in german , almost everyday i have to comfront and overcome racial problems . I refuse to use the word 'discrimination' but indeed people treat me just unlike a 'native resident' , two years ago i am convinced that after i can very fluent speak germany , things are gonna to be very different . However it has not progressed very far . Now my opinion has changed a lot . Instead to integrate into society i prefer keep my national identity , that is to say i want to speak with people here in germany but i am not gonna to be a german .
i think the most people here have no idea about the difficulty of integration into an another society as a Asian . It is very hard to distinguish a german from a american , but quiet simple to recongnise a chinese guy or japanese guy . Even before have a conversation with them , people start to treat them in another way . I have not been to America , so i dont know if in America is the same case like here in german . Even if you study in a german university and everyday you encounter a lot of people . Some people here just act like they do not see you , just like you live in different spaces but can see each ohter . i quickly become accustomed to this situation just like other asian students here . Previously i saw a blog from a student who had got his master degree in german but finally decided to go to America to get a PHD .It indicates that USA is a more amoretolerantand world in contrast to german , at least no one will whistle me on the street . On this point i have to say german is not a immigrant friendly country .

Posted: Sunday, July 09, 2017 2:28:19 PM
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In response to Tuna wondering whether the fact that America is a young country led to this "African-American", "Asian-American " nomenclature that sounds so strange to most of us.

Australia is younger than America = but an Australian is an Australian, is an Australian - no matter where their parents or great grandparents or whatever came from.

Both my sons were born in Africa and lived there until they were 13 and 16 respectively. They are from Africa. Whenever the younger one is on-line and mentions he's from Africa, American posters tell him either a) He is NOT African because he's white; or else that he is...wait for it..."African-American". Tho he's never been to America in his life!
When he was younger he used to get really worked up about being denied his nationality - now he just blocks those who talk such rubbish.

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Posted: Monday, July 10, 2017 11:34:29 AM
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Romany, do you know who invented the word "African American"?

and who worked to spread the word?

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