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Native American Pipeline Protest Halts Construction in N. Dakota Options
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Posted: Monday, August 22, 2016 2:16:15 PM

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https://insideclimatenews.org/news/18082016/native-americans-sioux-tribe-protest-north-dakota-access-bakken-oil-pipeline-fossil-fuels

"A groundswell of Native American activists has temporarily shut down construction on a major new oil pipeline with an ongoing protest that has drawn around 1,200 people to Cannon Ball, N.D."

"While the protest in Cannon Ball is primarily Native Americans, ranchers are challenging the project elsewhere along its 1,168-mile path. On August 9, lawyers representing 14 Iowa landowners filed a motion to halt construction of the pipeline across their property. The suit challenged Dakota Access's use of eminent domain to seize land for what it says is private use."

The media coverage has been sparse at best, but these people are American heroes.

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Posted: Monday, August 22, 2016 8:24:46 PM

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I'm surprised they are still doing domestic pipelines when the one to Canada was denied.

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Posted: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:01:10 PM

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This pipeline is coming out of the Bakken fields, which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. The Bakken fields are some of the most expensive to extract and production has fallen precipitously over the past year or more. The long term viability of oil extraction in the area is questionable. The pipeline has more to do with political favors and the oil lobby than actual market viability.

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https://nodaplsolidarity.org/

They are still out there protecting their land and standing up for "our" freedom. Where are those domestic terrorists who got wall to wall news coverage when they tried to steal public land for their own private use? If they were real Patriots they would be standing with these heroes (without their weapons). Ranchers, farmers, land owners as well as residents whose drinking water could be affected have been standing with the tribes, but no sign of the gun totin' dimwits with the breathtaking sense of entitlement.

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/293535-five-things-to-know-about-the-dakota-access-pipeline-fight



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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/key-points-judges-ruling-dakota-access-pipeline-case-41992782

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Posted: Saturday, September 10, 2016 9:23:09 AM

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This is sad on so many levels, even though the outcome was never in doubt. They fought for what was right, even when they knew the deck was stacked against them.

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Posted: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:53:47 AM

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An 11th hour reprieve?
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-pipeline-nativeamericans-idUSKCN11F2GX
"The Obama administration stepped into a dispute on Friday over a planned oil pipeline in North Dakota that has angered Native Americans, appealing for calm while blocking construction on federal land and asking the company behind the project to suspend work nearby.

The move came shortly after U.S. District Judge James Boasberg in Washington rejected a request from Native Americans for a court order to block the project. The government's action reflected the success of growing protests over the proposed $3.7 billion pipeline crossing four states which have sparked a renewal of Native American activism."


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Posted: Sunday, September 18, 2016 5:39:46 PM

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Progpen, There was a recent story in the TO Star about a Canadian radio host of the show "Democracy Now", Amy Goodman, and how she had to leave a TIFF (Toronto International Film Festival) panel about the film "All Governments Lie" which is being screened. The film is not only an indictment of govt, but also of the media. She is an investigative journalist and the claim is that there are not enough journalists doing this job anymore. Here are maybe two reasons why they aren't digging so much any more.

One - Why did Goodman have to leave? She had to deal with a warrant for her arrest in N. Dakota. She had tried to interview native Americans protesting the proposed pipeline. Police said she was on private property beyond a fence protesters broke through. According to the Guardian newspaper, she was filming security guards for the oil company who were using dogs and pepper spray to thwart the protesters.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/12/amy-goodman-arrest-warrant-north-dakota-oil-pipeline-protest


Two - Another reporter was arrested outside the Trump campaign. He said he was waiting to find out if they had access. There are two sides to the story.

https://news.vice.com/article/vice-news-reporter-arrested-outside-a-donald-trump-campaign-event


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Posted: Sunday, September 18, 2016 5:44:10 PM

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I've watched and listened to Democracy Now for a several years. It doesn't surprise me in the least that she and her team have been right in the thick of it and doing what journalists are supposed to do. Same with Jill Stein (the Green Candidate for President).

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Posted: Thursday, September 29, 2016 4:23:01 PM

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And the beat goes on.
Military-Style Raid Ends Native Prayer Against Dakota Pipeline
“ND authorities deploy armed personnel with shotguns and assault rifles, military vehicles, and aerial spray on peaceful Water Protectors gathered in prayer,” wrote the Sacred Stone Camp, in a Facebook post.

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Posted: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:24:03 PM

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Sigh!

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Posted: Monday, October 3, 2016 11:13:57 PM

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Stein has a warrant for her arrest.

Stein was caught spraypainting the phrases "decolonization" and "I approve this message" on various pieces of equipment.

She has been arrested numerous times for protesting. She has never denied it, she has not lied about it. In fact, she is quite proud of it. Doesn't matter if you agree with what she has done or not. Doesn't matter if you think her acts are "presidential" or not. She has been and continues to do what no other presidential candidate has dared to do. She is putting her safety and freedom on the line to help others.

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Posted: Friday, October 28, 2016 11:17:21 AM

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I saw that Progpen. Sad - still like the undeveloped west! Only now they do it legally.

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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2016 3:14:17 PM

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When armed domestic terrorists are acquitted because they are white males, it certainly says volumes about the state of the US.

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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2016 4:01:14 PM

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I just found this post. What are the Native Americans doing now? I watch the news and have seen nothing about it on the news.

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Boneyfriend, from the Toronto Star last two days - Associated Press and Washington Post

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/10/28/dakota-access-pipeline-protesters-relocated-more-than-100-arrested.html


https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/10/29/north-dakota-pipeline-protesters-staying-near-camp-after-tense-standoff.html

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And from the Washington Post an article that points to two polarities as one compares with the above stories - white extremists found not guilty in Oregon.

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/10/28/off-the-charts-unbelievable-will-oregon-not-guilty-verdict-embolden-extremists.html








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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2016 6:16:07 PM

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Thanks Hope. It's amazing to me that we still treat American Indians with such disrespect.

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Ah, guys, I'm so sorry. What a tragedy.

Dear gods, it makes one weep.
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Progpen,

The media and Trump are in a symbiotic relationship of self aggrandizement. Money for them, and free political gain for him.

And Comey has helped Trump by interfering with the election when he doesn't even have any details. They already know she received some classified emails and was "careless". Unless he has something more to charge her with such as intent to deliver information to the enemy, it is grossly negilgent for him to issue such a statement leaving people to make up stories again. But I think the email bit has already been factored in by Hillary supporters.

One good thing this election and news about white gunners in Oregon and First Nations people in ND has done, is to promote nationalism in Canada. We are not known for blowing our own horn but I have never seen so many people on social media and in the news saying how glad they are to be Canadian.




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Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 5:04:54 PM

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Progpen, I just heard today that Trump has financial interests in this pipeline. We'll see if Obama leaves it for him to sort out. And whether or not Trump pushes it through. And takes his money out first.

This is going to be interesting how Trump with all his interests and people who have access to him can persuade the people he is acting judiciously. I think he will find it was easier to point fingers when he wasn't in the thick of it.

Native Americans and First Nations in Canada were pushed into their small areas, and now they want to put a pipeline through their cemeteries!

We would be outraged if a corporation wanted to put a pipeline through our parents' graves!

Unreal, this greed for money with no respect for anything!

I haven't kept up on what happened to Goodman.

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First, 2,000 US veterans arrive at Standing Rock to help the protesters get ready for winter.
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/12/04/veterans-arrive-standing-rock-help-protesters-brace-winter.html

Next, we see the Army Corps of Engineers deny the permit for the pipeline.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/04/dakota-access-pipeline-permit-denied-standing-rock


This is how America should work. This is the US that the world needs to see. Peaceful resistance. True patriots and heroes.

It is truly sad that it took US veterans joining in before the Army Corps conveniently "unforgot" that all they ever had to do was deny permits. But the outcome is great news.

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progpen wrote:
First, 2,000 US veterans arrive at Standing Rock to help the protesters get ready for winter.
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/12/04/veterans-arrive-standing-rock-help-protesters-brace-winter.html

Next, we see the Army Corps of Engineers deny the permit for the pipeline.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/04/dakota-access-pipeline-permit-denied-standing-rock


This is how America should work. This is the US that the world needs to see. Peaceful resistance. True patriots and heroes.

It is truly sad that it took US veterans joining in before the Army Corps conveniently "unforgot" that all they ever had to do was deny permits. But the outcome is great news.


Great news! Thanks for keeping us posted, PrP.

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Veterans and Army were great! It's going to the courts now? It's not over yet? That's what I heard.

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Ya, it looks like the water protectors will stay in place. Native American activists at the Standing Rock “water protector” camps vowed to remain in place the morning after the US Army Corps of Engineers denied a key permit for the Dakota Access pipeline, with many expressing concerns that the incoming Trump administration and potential legal action from the pipeline company could reverse their victory.

American Indians don't trust the US Government to keep their word? Now why do you think that is?


Maybe it's the fact that the corporate interests have already said they will do whatever the hell they want to no matter what the Obama administration says.
“As stated all along, ETP and SXL are fully committed to ensuring that this vital project is brought to completion and fully expect to complete construction of the pipeline without any additional rerouting in and around Lake Oahe,” the companies said in a statement. “Nothing this administration has done today changes that in any way.”



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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/11/standing-rock-army-veterans-camp

The new administration has already decided to reverse earlier decisions and ok the pipeline. Now we have new heroes like this army veteran, willing to do the right thing.
US veterans are returning to Standing Rock and pledging to shield indigenous activists from attacks by a militarized police force, another sign that the fight against the Dakota Access pipeline is far from over.

It's been suggested on other threads that I not use the word patriot because of its history, but to heck with that. These people are patriots. They are true patriots. And it's people like these who are doing good for others, for the country (which is not a bad thing and is not "nationalist"), and for the world.

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Those armed white men look really like criminal bandits. Still exist in the USA that kind of people!?
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http://www.citylab.com/weather/2016/11/30-years-of-pipeline-accidents-mapped/509066/

http://www.ecowatch.com/texas-oil-spill-dapl-2252577429.html

http://globalnews.ca/news/3200192/pipeline-spills-oil-on-first-nations-land-in-southeast-sask/

These First Nations people have got to feel so oppressed, angry, and helpless. Nothing but greed and unfairness from the white man since he first arrived on their lands. They can't even respect their cemeteries and treaties.

Look at the map on the first link showing the leaks on the environment, just since 1986. I know we need fossil fuels till we get something better, they could show some respect, lose a little money, and relocate.

BTW - digression. I think it was only an opinion piece, but the author thinks there is no way the coal mines will be opened as the fuel of choice is now natural gas. Anybody heard anything about that?

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/politics/dakota-access-pipeline-easement-granted/

"Trump's reversal of (President Obama's) decision continues a historic pattern of broken promises to Indian tribes and a violation of treaty rights," Earthjustice attorney Jan Hasselman, who is representing the tribe, said. "Trump and his administration will be held accountable in court."

The Standing Rock Sioux said they will argue in court that the environmental impact statement process was wrongfully terminated.

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/13/standing-rock-veterans-police-arrest-north-dakota
Now police are singling out veterans and have filed charges against 2 so far. Police have confiscated one veteran's car and have seized what they are calling "protest gear", which apparently includes camping supplies.

These police officers may just be doing their jobs, but targeting veterans will not gain them any points with the majority of Americans. This is quite obviously an organized attempt to silence protest and instill fear in anyone who might think of supporting these protests. Absolutely disgusting and these police officers have chosen the wrong side.

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So now there are 210,000 gallons of oil spilled on or near native lands by the Keystone Pipeline (Obama did not allow Canada to build it but djt overturned that) just as they are awaiting permission for a new pipeline in Nebraska. Whether native lands or not it is sad. Just another ho hum environmental spill.

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Yeah Hope it is really sad that when the very thing people were afraid of, that they were assured would not happen, does happen, and it gets only a footnote on national news. Where are the outraged and widespread demands for accountability from the news organizations?

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Hey guys - don't look now, but it's just possible that we have been relieved of the Parsar's divisive presence!!

I may be jumping the gun here, so let's just wait and see how many more days go by without him posting.

If so, we have a chance, at last, of getting our credibility back!
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