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TheParser
Posted: Thursday, April 07, 2016 8:05:08 AM
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The Drudge Report (an American news website) reports that a gay man in Miami, Florida, was recently beaten up in a McDonald's restaurant because he had kissed his boyfriend.

Some people would say that if a straight male is allowed to kiss his significant other in public, then it is only fair that a gay man have the same right.

Some people would say that a gay man should realize that public kissing is likely to enrage some males who are sexually insecure or perhaps mortified by a past gay experience.
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If a man gets enraged because he sees someone kissing someone else, I dare say the problem is with the former, rather than the latter.

But if we are to outlaw public kissing, because it might enrage people who are "sexually insecure or perhaps mortified by a past [amorous] experience", it should not be limited to just same-sex kissing. And why stop at kissing? Just about any physical contact between people could be potentially triggering for past trauma, and should therefore be outlawed if we follow this way of thinking.
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If they want ,why not

The real problem isn´t the kiss but the closed minds of the people who still carry on inside their heart´s poor feelings about the other´s .
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Posted: Thursday, April 07, 2016 11:25:20 AM

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March Hare wrote:
If a man gets enraged because he sees someone kissing someone else, I dare say the problem is with the former, rather than the latter.


Truer words have never been spoken! Well, they probably have. But still, I agree.
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Very nicely said by all.



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Posted: Thursday, April 07, 2016 3:09:32 PM

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The same people in the west who object to gays kissing in public are the same vocal people who condemn (some) Muslim states for forbidding women to drive cars and who dictate what women can and cannot wear etc.


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Allana
Posted: Thursday, April 07, 2016 3:32:51 PM

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Is it fair that only women are allowed to be tactile with all their friends, regardless of gender? It cannot be good for men to be forced to repress themselves so.

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FounDit
Posted: Thursday, April 07, 2016 4:30:08 PM

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A couple of points from my perspective and experince:

I think most of the people in my generation, the older generation, are not used to seeing two men kissing, so it is a bit jarring when it happens.

Oddly enough, the more macho a man believes himself to be, the more offended he seems to be by such a display.

The other odd thing is that most men aren't put off as much by seeing two women kissing. Western societies permit women to be much more tactile than men.

I don't think the younger generation would think much of it at all.

However, I think more folks, both young and old, would be put off by a couple who appear to engage in a public display of tongue wrestling. I have no way of verifying that, however.

As to Allana's point, the trend over the last hundred years at least is that young boys are not touched or hugged once they reach puberty like girls were. There was an unspoken rule that boys responded too easily to touch and would become aroused, so they were left alone. There was also the idea that touching was only for gays, and not for real men, which also resulted in increased isolation.

So whenever boys did engage in physical contact, with girls especially, their reaction was intense. This tended to frighten the girls, and frustrate the boys.

I've heard that the younger generation engage much more easily in sexual activity than our generation, but to what degree I couldn't say.


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Posted: Thursday, April 07, 2016 4:56:55 PM
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It's not the kiss, it's how it's done (too many it's?).

I do not like to see one of those sloppy wet, tongue rolling kisses done by anyone of any gender. That is not decent public behavior, especially when young children are around. It is show.
Marco Polo 1
Posted: Thursday, April 07, 2016 5:03:47 PM

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The only thing gays should be allowed to do in public is receive a public lashing.

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Marco Polo 1 wrote:
The only thing gays should be allowed to do in public is receive a public lashing.

Ah, the quiet voice of reason again. I would have suggested public castration with a blunt, rusty knife and no anaesthetic. It's fortunate that we have more moderate voices in the forum.
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Of course, I may have misunderstood. If you are in fact, Marco Polo, a gay masochist who would like to do his thing in public, please accept my apologies for the misunderstanding.
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Tunaafi... stand in front of my home while making out with your boyfriend in front of my children and I'll truly teach you the voice of reason.

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NKM
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As an American, I must assume that the above exchange is an extreme example of the vaunted British humor.

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Posted: Friday, April 08, 2016 1:59:02 AM

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In Belgium, the general convention is that you give each other a kiss on the cheek (or two, or three - it's quite confusing sometimes) upon meeting. That used to be purely for women (when greeting another woman or man). Men on the other hand would shake hands.

The last couple of years, I've seen this change and it's now normal for men to kiss each other on the cheek upon greeting. It's usually the younger generation who does this.
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Marco Polo 1 wrote:
The only thing gays should be allowed to do in public is receive a public lashing.


As we all know, public lashings are good for the soul. God forbid a kid sees two men kissing in public! Much better for the kid to see public lashings.

Just don't forget to edit out all the blood and gore - it needs to stay PG13!
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Marco Polo 1 wrote:
The only thing gays should be allowed to do in public is receive a public lashing.


Actually, since this is a legal thread, I feel I should point out that making threats of violence against gay people and spreading hate about them should be considered a much worse offense than even the most blatant case of public tongue-wrestling.
Lotje1000
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March Hare wrote:
Actually, since this is a legal thread, I feel I should point out that making threats of violence against gay people and spreading hate about them should be considered a much worse offense than even the most blatant case of public tongue-wrestling.


True. On a side note: tongue-wrestling, public or not, should always happen with consent!
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Posted: Friday, April 08, 2016 3:13:43 AM

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Bobpbx wrote:
It's not the kiss, it's how it's done (too many it's?).

I do not like to see one of those sloppy wet, tongue rolling kisses done by anyone of any gender. That is not decent public behavior, especially when young children are around. It is show.


Exactly right Bobpbx. With some people it is 'let's show them we don't care what they think'. This is especially so of some younger people of both sexes, but increasingly so of older men and women who should know better.


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Geeman
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Marco Polo 1 wrote:
The only thing gays should be allowed to do in public is receive a public lashing.


That's extremely open-minded of you. I know submission/exhibitionism a popular fetish, but personally I still think such BDSM play should be kept relatively private.
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Should be compulsory.
Joyce Margaret
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Men have become more tactile in public over the course of my life. I remember when I was very young and rugby players on TV would simply nod, smile or wave at the crowd when they scored a try. Now when a player wins a try the team players publicly hug and kiss and these are strapping, macho rugby players. How times have changed. If gays kiss in public it is none of my business. Men need to become liberated from stereotypes and if they want to show their emotions in public then that is OK with me.
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NKM wrote:
As an American, I must assume that the above exchange is an extreme example of the vaunted British humor.


Having read some of Marco Polo's posts in other threads, I have a sneaking suspicion that he is serious.
Lotje1000
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tunaafi wrote:
NKM wrote:
As an American, I must assume that the above exchange is an extreme example of the vaunted British humor.


Having read some of Marco Polo's posts in other threads, I have a sneaking suspicion that he is serious.


For the sake of sanity, let's assume he's not?
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Tunaafi wrote:
Having read some of Marco Polo's posts in other threads, I have a sneaking suspicion that he is serious


Sadly, you are probably right... Brick wall
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The public display of romantic affection between any of the three genders must be moderate, is how i see it.

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Articulate Dreamer wrote:
The public display of romantic affection between any of the three genders must be moderate, is how i see it.

THREE genders..? Eh?
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Hi everyone,

Dare I say it.....What millennia were you born in (those who are vehemently against Gays kissing in public).
While I agree that sloppy tongue lashing is probably not acceptable anywhere, regardless of the Gender, This is especially true when young children are around, as their brains aren't developed enough to be able to make sense of the act, or even understanding it when explained to them by a caring Parent.
However, a simple kiss between those of any gender mix is okay (and legal) in the USA and pretty much all of the EU.

Whoever has a problem with this should take into account the possibility that the gays kissing in from of your house are Navy Seals, 6' 4" 220 lbs of solid solid muscle and have been trained to kill over 50 ways, and that's just the ways to kill with their bare hands,

Marci Polo 1, At what elevated level do you sit by the right hand of God and judge others for what is, and is not okay to do in public by anyone or anything.




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FounDit has rightly said:

"...........
I've heard that the younger generation engage much more easily in sexual activity than our generation, but to what degree I couldn't say."

Considering the pace at which the younger generation is moving, "to what degree..." cannot be decreed by any law!

The age in which we live, this non-stop distraction, is making it more impossible for the young generation to ever have the curiosity or discipline... because you need to be alone to find out anything.
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Maryam Dad
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Annelise Carlsen wrote:
Articulate Dreamer wrote:
The public display of romantic affection between any of the three genders must be moderate, is how i see it.

THREE genders..? Eh?


It may be better for gays to kiss in toilets. The correct toilets.

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The men shakes hands or kiss one another and the ladies only kiss one another on their cheeks.


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They have an inconclusive toilet at my local gender assessment clinic.

Marco Polo 1
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March Hare wrote:
Actually, since this is a legal thread, I feel I should point out that making threats of violence against gay people and spreading hate about them should be considered a much worse offense than even the most blatant case of public tongue-wrestling.

Actually, since this is a public forum, I feel I should point out that I have as much right to express my opinion as anyone. No threat was made and if there's spreading of hate it's being spread by those who have admonished me for having an opinion different from their own.

OnTheVerge wrote:
Marci Polo 1, At what elevated level do you sit by the right hand of God and judge others for what is, and is not okay to do in public by anyone or anything.

Precisely at the same elevation as you for sitting at the right hand of God and judging me for my opinion.
We live in a society... societies have rules... live with it.


I should think I would be praised for mixing it up a little. Instead I find reproach and hatred. How boring is it when everyone agrees just so they can receive a pat on the back? I have my opinion, and if I have to stand alone for it, so be it. I'm not afraid to have a different opinion.

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