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Daemon
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The Nanking Massacre (1937)

Upon capturing the city of Nanking, which had been the Nationalist Chinese capital, Japanese forces under orders to destroy the city proceeded to kill and rape the Chinese residents on a mass scale. Tens of thousands were raped and between 100,000 and 300,000 are estimated to have been killed during the Nanking Massacre. The tense relations between the two nations into the 21st century is, in part, due to the brutality of Japanese troops during this time. What happened to those responsible? More...
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Japan still has not truly apologized for the unspeakable actions of its troops in Nanking.

Some people have tried to give this excuse for the troops' behavior: The people in Japan are expected to practice severe self-discipline in their daily lives. When those troops got to China, however, they experienced for the first time an opportunity to throw off such rigid self-discipline, so they lost all self-control.

Hopefully, someday younger Japanese will come to power and show genuine remorse for what older generations did to the Chinese and other nationalities. I have read, however, that almost nothing about Japanese atrocities is taught in their schools. (I do not know whether German schools teach about the unspeakable actions of the Nazis, but we all know that Germany has expressed great sorrow for the unbelievable suffering caused by Herr Hitler. And regardless of what one thinks about the refugees coming into Europe at this time, Germany has been a model of compassion. Ms. Merkel has been the exact opposite of Herr Hitler. By the way, Time magazine has chosen her as the Person of the Year.)
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Strange - in 1938, Time Magazine named Hitler as "Man of the Year"

Time wrote:
When without loss of blood he reduced Czechoslovakia to a German puppet state, forced a drastic revision of Europe's defensive alliances, and won a free hand for himself in Eastern Europe by getting a "hands-off" promise from powerful Britain (and later France), Adolf Hitler without doubt became 1938's Man of the Year.


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Most countries have something like this in their history - whether recent or ancient.
The activities of some American troops in the far East were similar, the activities of the Crusaders in the Middle East likewise.

The concentration and extent of Nanking is what makes it more notorious, though every incidence of this type of action - even one soldier and one victim - should be condemned.
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Drag0nspeaker wrote:
Strange - in 1938, Time Magazine named Hitler as "Man of the Year"




Many "experts" say that IF Herr Hitler had NOT gone to war, then he would have definitely deserved to be called one of Germany's greatest leaders: in the 1930s, he resolved the horrible inflation and unemployment problem (albeit through rearmament). The economic and political chaos of the 1920s disappeared.

Many books feel that the German people did NOT want him to go to war. They just wanted him to make Germany strong and respected again so that it could ignore the humiliating peace terms of World War I.

It is absolutely unbelievable that he did not remember Napoleon's disastrous invasion of Russia.

Today, it is claimed, some people say that Americans should not forget President George Walker Bush's disastrous invasion of Iraq. Thus, they oppose sending tens of thousands of American soldiers to deal with ISIS. They feel that it is up to the Arab nations to settle the matter.
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What an horrific read! I couldn't get through it, too brutal. The Japanese have a history of denial. Many Australian POWs in WWII died in camps or on death marches. Shame on you
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In Shinzō Abe's opinion it is debatable whether Japan has invaded any other countries. Any wonder that Japan remains the only country in this world devastated by nuclear bombs?

History may repeat itself if Japan fails to look squarely at her history, and reflect what she has done in the past.
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Dear Gary98. I am not sure, but maybe answer is hidden behind the fact, who and how have completed denazification in Japan? And why so many countries, in close proximity to Japan, still feel their grievances as unhealed.
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Where was God in 1930s?
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One historian has estimated that if the dead from Nanking were to link hands, they would
stretch from Nanking to the city of Hangchow, spanning a distance of some two hundred
miles. Their blood would weigh twelve hundred tons, and their bodies would fill twenty-five
hundred railroad cars. Stacked on top of each other, these bodies would reach the height of a
seventy-four story building.
- Iris Chang, Rape of Nanking: The Forgotten Holocaust of World War II

http://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1015&context=momentum

Dehumanization of the Enemy
By dehumanizing enemies, animal metaphors reduced the sense of guilt about killing human
beings in battle. The “lower” the phylum, the lower the sense of guilt, and few phyla ranked
lower than insects
- Edmund P. Russell III, Speaking of Annihilation: Mobilizing for War Against Human and Insect Enemies
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Robert Imgrat wrote:
Dear Gary98. I am not sure, but maybe answer is hidden behind the fact, who and how have completed denazification in Japan? And why so many countries, in close proximity to Japan, still feel their grievances as unhealed.


Most likely the perpetrator has not been punished adequately, and they have not acknowledged their crime fully, and people feel they may commit the crime in the future again, one way or another.
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To be fair to Japan, they like to apologize to the USA. This is not really needed: we kicked your ass soundly already. Go apologize to those Asian countries, big or small.
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WHAT A MESS!
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ChristopherJohnson wrote:
Where was God in 1930s?


An atheist could easily answer that question.
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TheParser wrote:
And regardless of what one thinks about the refugees coming into Europe at this time, Germany has been a model of compassion. Ms. Merkel has been the exact opposite of Herr Hitler. By the way, Time magazine has chosen her as the Person of the Year.)


Drag0nspeaker wrote:
Strange - in 1938, Time Magazine named Hitler as "Man of the Year"

Time wrote:
When without loss of blood he reduced Czechoslovakia to a German puppet state, forced a drastic revision of Europe's defensive alliances, and won a free hand for himself in Eastern Europe by getting a "hands-off" promise from powerful Britain (and later France), Adolf Hitler without doubt became 1938's Man of the Year.


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Remember this was for his effect on the world that year - not an endorsement.
The accompanying front cover image showed what they thought of him.

This year the first choice was Angela Merkel, but second from the shortlist was Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi of ISIS.
http://time.com/time-person-of-the-year-2015-runner-up-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi/
I don't think anybody believes Time Magazine is applauding ISIS.


I don't think anyone can deny that what Hitler did in 1938 was massively important to the future of the world.




You could argue that by bypassing the asylum system that requires people to seek asylum in the first safe country, rather than the richest or most generous one, Merkel is guilty of destroying Schengen, potentially bringing down the EU, inciting Balkan tensions, making Russia's European neighbours feel unsafe and forcing a European crisis.
Time Magazine obviously considered her (country's) actions more important to the future of the world than ISIS this year.
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thar wrote:


You could argue that by bypassing the asylum system that requires people to seek asylum in the first safe country, rather than the richest or most generous one, Merkel is guilty of destroying Schengen, potentially bringing down the EU, inciting Balkan tensions, making Russia's European neighbours feel unsafe and forcing a European crisis.


Many people agree with you.

Political "experts" claim that Ms. Merkel is politically safe for the moment because -- supposedly -- there is no one to replace her.

I doubt that.

Ambitious pols are always waiting for a chance to pounce. (Remember what happened to Lady Thatcher.)

Who knows?

Maybe by this time next year, people will be asking "Angela WHO?" (And "Donald WHO?")
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