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Tolerance is a very dull virtue. It is boring. Unlike love, it has always had a bad press. It is negative. It merely means putting up with people, being able to stand things.

E. M. Forster (1879-1970)
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Tolerance is positive as it buttresses the innate human attribute called gregariousness. How come the human civilization is built & it flourishes sans tolerance.
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Prasun Das 3 wrote:
Tolerance is positive as it buttresses the innate human attribute called gregariousness. How come the human civilization is built & it flourishes sans tolerance.


Can we really say that human civilization flourishes?

I remember, therefore I am.
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Correct, to a certain degree.
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It's too bad that ain't all virtues so sexy and glamorous as love...
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jacobusmaximus wrote:
Prasun Das 3 wrote:
Tolerance is positive as it buttresses the innate human attribute called gregariousness. How come the human civilization is built & it flourishes sans tolerance.


Can we really say that human civilization flourishes?



It all depends from point of reference and time scale: eon, era, period, epoch...
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Unlike Mr. Forster, tolerance is positive when humanity is the case. God granted tolerance to those who are peaceful and not violent. It is, also, tolerance that can make a teacher out of an enemy.
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We continue to tolerate your depressing quotes, in spite of being a curmudgeon.
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It is good to know that even curmudgeons can be tolerant.
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E.M. Forster Biography

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Name E.M. Forster Occupation Writer Birth Date January 1, 1879 Death Date June 7, 1970 Education Tonbridge School, University of Cambridge, King's College Place of Birth London, United Kingdom Place of Death Coventry, United Kingdom AKA E.M. Forster Edward ForsterFull Name Edward Morgan Forster
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Writer and critic E.M. Forster is the author of Howards End, A Passage to India and A Room With a View.


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Raised by his mother and aunts, E.M. Forster attended England's Tonbridge School before enrolling at the University of Cambridge. His novel Howards End brought him great acclaim, and he went on to publish A Passage to India and A Room With A View, among other literary works. Forster's themes reflect the shift in morals and viewpoints from the Victorian era to the 20th century
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Context from the Essay Tolerance, in Two CHEERS FOR DEMOCRACY 45 (1951)..

3.) Respectfully but firmly, I disagree. Love is a great force in private life; it is indeed the greatest of all things: but love in public affairs does not work. It has been tried again and again: by the Christian civilizations of the Middle Ages, and also by the French Revolution, a secular movement which reasserted the brotherhood of man. And it has always failed. The idea that nations should love one another, or that business concerns or market boards should love one another, or that a man in Portugal should love a man in Peru of whom he has never heard—it is absurd, unreal, dangerous. It leads us into perilous and vague sentimentalism. “Love is what is needed,” we chant and then sit back, and the world goes on as before. The fact is we can only love what we know personally. And we cannot know much. In public affairs, in the rebuilding of civilization, something much less dramatic and emotional is needed, namely, tolerance. Tolerance is a very dull virtue. It is boring. Unlike love, it has always had a bad press. It is negative. It merely means putting up with people, being able to stand things. No one has ever written an ode to tolerance or raised a statue to her. Yet this is the quality which will be most needed after the war. This is the sound state of mind which we are looking for. This is the only force which will enable different races and classes and interests to settle down together to the work of reconstruction.

http://projectsharetexas.org/resource/reading-and-writing-prompt-english-iii-reading-and-writing
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I imagine tolerance would be highly valued if you're spending twenty years in the Gulag

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It simply means indifference.
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the wisdom to understand and capacity to stand things.
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monamagda... well put! Without tolerance, we are doomed!
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SoHeiL.N wrote:
Unlike Mr. Forster, tolerance is positive when humanity is the case. God granted tolerance to those who are peaceful and not violent. It is, also, tolerance that can make a teacher out of an enemy.


Well said!!!

Tolerance is the power that keeps you going when children, yours or not, are "testing" your patience. That's how you teach them to be patient and accept others regardless of their culture, religion, political or social status.
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Could it be that Daemon is very fond of E.M.Foster? There are a lot more greats in this world worth quoting!
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SoHeiL.N wrote:
Unlike Mr. Forster, tolerance is positive when humanity is the case. God granted tolerance to those who are peaceful and not violent. It is, also, tolerance that can make a teacher out of an enemy.
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monamagda wrote:
Context from the Essay Tolerance, in Two CHEERS FOR DEMOCRACY 45 (1951)..

3.) Respectfully but firmly, I disagree. Love is a great force in private life; it is indeed the greatest of all things: but love in public affairs does not work. It has been tried again and again: by the Christian civilizations of the Middle Ages, and also by the French Revolution, a secular movement which reasserted the brotherhood of man. And it has always failed. The idea that nations should love one another, or that business concerns or market boards should love one another, or that a man in Portugal should love a man in Peru of whom he has never heard—it is absurd, unreal, dangerous. It leads us into perilous and vague sentimentalism. “Love is what is needed,” we chant and then sit back, and the world goes on as before. The fact is we can only love what we know personally. And we cannot know much. In public affairs, in the rebuilding of civilization, something much less dramatic and emotional is needed, namely, tolerance. Tolerance is a very dull virtue. It is boring. Unlike love, it has always had a bad press. It is negative. It merely means putting up with people, being able to stand things. No one has ever written an ode to tolerance or raised a statue to her. Yet this is the quality which will be most needed after the war. This is the sound state of mind which we are looking for. This is the only force which will enable different races and classes and interests to settle down together to the work of reconstruction.

http://projectsharetexas.org/resource/reading-and-writing-prompt-english-iii-reading-and-writing


Blessed are the researchers! Without this “rest of the story,” the intent of Mr. Forster’s words would have become so twisted here that it would've taken a dismantler with the skill of a Rubik Cube master to properly align them.
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Daemon wrote:
Tolerance is a very dull virtue. It is boring. Unlike love, it has always had a bad press. It is negative. It merely means putting up with people, being able to stand things.

E. M. Forster (1879-1970)


Forster's observation is insightful because it is absolutely ridiculous to tolerate certain things in life such as the bullying force of military manipulations, propaganda and lies, sneaky/deceitful anonymity of of all kinds of addicts and social lies/corruption. We must not tolerate any funding of the military and weapons. We must not tolerate the sneaky anonymity of alcoholics, drug, and sex addicts. We must not tolerate any funding of pornography and prostitution...
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Daemon wrote:
Tolerance is a very dull virtue. It is boring. Unlike love, it has always had a bad press. It is negative. It merely means putting up with people, being able to stand things.

E. M. Forster (1879-1970)


Tolerance, even compared with love, is not dull, not boring, not negative. Putting up with people and being able to stand most things
is resplendent with our resilient capacity to yield, even though blunt opposition would be the easier alternative. It is voluntary,
rational giving way to something which has little return, unlike love which gives under duress of a spell and expects reciprocity.

But tolerance must never be abused by those benefiting from it, and sadly, that intolerably happens all the time.
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