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Volcano
Posted: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 6:43:05 AM
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In short, there is in life an element of elfin coincidence which people reckoning on the porsaic may perpetually miss.As it has been well expressed in the paradox of Poe, wishdom should reckon on the unforeseen.

What the hell is this saying?

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thar
Posted: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 6:57:07 AM

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There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
(Hamlet)

sorry to quote-back, couldn't resist.

Gist: Life is strange, if you are not open to it you miss something.

anything specific causing the problem?

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It is the “out of the ordinary” things, that make life worth living.

Mise, tá mé lán de dea-fhortún.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:52:04 AM

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By way of explanation, the sentence makes sense when you know what Poes Paradox (and Poes Law) means

Poe Paradox
The Poe Paradox is a further corollary to Poe's Law, that results from an unhealthy level of paranoia. It states that:

In any fundamentalist group where Poe's Law applies, a paradox exists where any new person (or idea) sufficiently fundamentalist to be accepted by the group is likely to be so ridiculous that they risk being rejected as a parodist (or parody). Poe's Law

Poe's Law states:[1]

Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing. ”

Poe's Law points out that it is hard to tell parodies of fundamentalism (or, more generally, any crackpot theory) from the real thing, since they both seem equally insane. Conversely, real fundamentalism can easily be mistaken for a parody of fundamentalism. For example, some conservatives consider noted homophobe Fred Phelps to be so over-the-top that they argue he's a "deep cover liberal" trying to discredit more mainstream homophobes.

History
Poe's Law was originally formulated by Nathan Poe in August 2005.[2] The law emerged at the Creation & Evolution forum on the website Christianforums.com. Like most such places, it had seen a large number of creationist parody postings and these parody posts were usually followed by at least one user starting a flame war (a series of angry and offensive personal attacks) thinking it was a real post. Nathan Poe summarized this pattern in his original formulation of the law:

“ Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that someone won't mistake for the genuine article. ”

The law caught on and has since slowly leaked out as an internet meme. Over time it has been reformulated to include more than just creationist parody but rather any parody of fundamentalism, whether religious, secular, or totally bonkers.


Thanks to Wikipedia. (and Nathan Poe of course)

I think its about time chickens are able to cross the road without constantly having their motives challenged!
boneyfriend
Posted: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:53:22 AM

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And thanks to you Alias, for hashing it all out.

There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face. Ben Williams
Epiphileon
Posted: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:57:12 AM

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ROFLMAO That is absolutely priceless, thanks Alias.

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B355E
Posted: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 10:16:21 AM

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Great explanation, Alias, thanks!

Only the heart can see clearly: what is important is invisible to the eyes. The Little Prince
Yaelyael
Posted: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:35:07 PM

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Very well said Alias Applause

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jcbarros
Posted: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:06:00 PM

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Nice Alias... alias what?
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Posted: Thursday, January 13, 2011 3:10:18 AM

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Another take on this quote could be that it was made in reference to the author, Edgar Allan Poe.

The quote comes from "The Innocence of Father Brown," by G.K. Chesterton (1874 – 1936).

"The most incredible thing about miracles is that they happen. A few clouds in heaven do come together into the staring shape of one human eye. A tree does stand up in the landscape of a doubtful journey in the exact and elaborate shape of a note of interrogation. I have seen both these things myself within the last few days. Nelson does die in the instant of victory; and a man named Williams does quite accidentally murder a man named Williamson; it sounds like a sort of infanticide. In short, there is in life an element of elfin coincidence which people reckoning on the prosaic may perpetually miss. As it has been well expressed in the paradox of Poe, wisdom should reckon on the unforeseen."

Poe was best known his poems and short stories in the Gothic genre: a hint of horror, and suggestion of the supernatural, all set in dark locales such as castles and crumbling mansions.
He was also interested in psychology, phrenology and other "pseudo-sciences," and explored subjects such as self-destruction, madness, and imagination.
He is credited with "inventing" the detective novel.
Poe was also, according to many personal accounts, a difficult and "dark" character.

But alongside all this Poe was also a literary critic and editor.

He was both prosaic and fantastic.

His work shows that he "reckoned on the unforeseen."
Alias
Posted: Thursday, January 13, 2011 3:58:20 AM

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jcbarros wrote:
Nice Alias... alias what?


Alias Incognito....A.K.A The Alias formerly known as Incognito...or simply..... X



BTW BBB Thanks for your Poe post regarding Edgar Allen. I think that EAP's namesake Nathan's Paradox does indeed find its nomenclaturial genesis in that very musing of Mr Chesterton. It is one of those wonderful comings together of a serendipitous congruence of meaning. Nathan Poe and co were quite aware of Chesterton and adopted the label somewhat tongue in cheek but nonetheless aptly applicable in its latter incarnation!

I think its about time chickens are able to cross the road without constantly having their motives challenged!
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Posted: Sunday, January 16, 2011 6:52:32 PM
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You are right, blahblah.I am reading that book, it looks difficult for learners to get the book.

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