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Hi friends!
can you explain what kinds of unlawful behaviour the "violent disorder" refers to?
Thanks a lot in advance!
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Can you give us some context? Where did you read this term? Welcome to the forum. :)
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welcome to the forum, Lighe. Found something from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Order_Act_1986
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The Public Order Act is an interesting one as you can see from the link given by JJ. "A person of reasonable firmness" is not defined and is taken to mean a police officer. In effect the crime, among most of those in the Public Order Act, is police defined i.e. if a police officer says you committed it, then you committed it - and thus there is no defence, unless you get a very clever lawyer!
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Hello to everybody!and thanks a lot to everybody!I apologize because I come back lately on the forum. I am just curious about this offence.Some people - not English native people - see it as threatening behavior only.I think it is much more than that.I find the "using of unlawful violence" an important aspect.
I'll look for examples of violent disorder to get more about the topic.
Thanks a lot again, friends!
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If you google "Public Order Act" in the UK domain you will see that violent disorder is defined by the number of people present (only the UK as you say), I think it is "at least" 5. So folk, on their own, who are threatening, even to property, are guilty of other offences; but if they are part of a group, then they can be charged with "violent disorder". It is a legal twist, because violent disorder carries a heavier penalty. I think the idea of the folk who drafted the law, was to have available, a means to punish protesters and rioters with "exemplary" sentences.
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Lighe wrote:Hi friends!
can you explain what kinds of unlawful behavior the "violent disorder" refers to?
Thanks a lot in advance!
The violent disorder is interesting topic in law eyes If you have uncontrolled anger and your anger is dangerous for other peoples, or if you are hurting others physically with your habits. "violent disorder"
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